marlynn
oak hills ca.
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can anyone offer me advice on towing with duals vs single rear wheels i currently tow a 30' cardinal fk with a 03 ford 6.0 diesel with dual rear wheels and it tows like a dream but i would like to up grade my truck to a 4wd crew cab ford turbo diesel with a short bed and single rear wheels.are their any advantages to pulling a trailer this size with a dually versus a single rear wheel?will changing to the shorter box on the shortbed hurt me at all?
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Damdifino
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You'll get all kinds of opinions on which is best, SRW or DRW. For my part, I'll take SRW for a bunch of reasons. Of more interest is your question about going to a short bed. I think you'd regret that, partly because you'd lose a lot of fuel tank capacity. Also, read all the threads about people with short bed trucks who've shattered the rear cab window or dented the truck when cutting turns too short.
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Before - '03 F-350 6.0L PSD 4x4 SRW LWB Crew Cab (totaled, RIP)
After - '06 F-350 6.0L 4x4 Lariat SRW LWB
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Jiver51
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I have a short bed SRW F-250, and pull a 32 ft Montana with no problems. You will need a slider hitch with the short bed, but with my pullrite superglide, I do not even have to think about turns. The hitch slides back and forward automatically.
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racomarley
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If you go to the SRW does that mean you will have to trade trucks again if you want to upgrade the 5iver? Have towed with both, no question in my mind that the dually is more stable on the road in wind or when passing or being passed by the 18 wheelers, plus I am no longer limited to the smaller 5ivers due to pin weight issues. On another form I was on today they were discussing having the extra rear wheels in case of a blow out at highway speed, it was an interesting discussion about what can happen when blow out occurs to a SRW verus DRW truck. It has not happened to me so have no input, but think if the blow out occurs on the rear with a heavy load on, 4 wheels will be better than 2, but I am not an expert on that.
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C&M Beiser+4
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I've never heard of anyone hitting the cab while going forward. I can't turn sharp enough to cause my rig to hit, backing up is a different story. Most of the time I'll slide my hitch to the maneuver position when I'm backing to be safe. I prefer the 6 3/4' bed. Chris
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Horseplay
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Duals are safer all around. Comes into play on windy days, and downward turns with a 5ver mostly. That pin weight it not just pushing down, but also outward..extra rubber for stopping. Having the bigger foot print keeps you stabilized. Anyone that thinks that stabilization isn't worth it, hasn't been in a situation where it was truly needed. Having a footprint as wide as what you are towing...priceless!
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Turby's_03_Stroke
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I upgraded last Jan from a 92 F250 SRW to an 03 F350 dually. My old F250 would handle the pin weight of my 30' fiver fine. No squat at all. I estimate around 1800# of pin weight. I went with the dually because we plan on upgrading in the future to a 35' model that will have around 2200#-3000# of pin weight. Decide on what is the largest fiver or camper you will buy and then decide. I don't mind putting up with the dually. Just gotta park where you have some room. Somewhat of a bear to turn around. It's a crew, but rides and pulls really really well.
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marlynn
oak hills ca.
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thanks for all the input guys,it all makes alot of sense.i guess i didnt make it clear but my rig is a tt not a fifth wheel,but i think most of what you guys said makes alot of sense......
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djgarcia
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marlynn wrote:can anyone offer me advice on towing with duals vs single rear wheels i currently tow a 30' cardinal fk with a 03 ford 6.0 diesel with dual rear wheels and it tows like a dream but i would like to up grade my truck to a 4wd crew cab ford turbo diesel with a short bed and single rear wheels.are their any advantages to pulling a trailer this size with a dually versus a single rear wheel?will changing to the shorter box on the shortbed hurt me at all?
I just went through the same decision when I bought my new Dodge. Here are some of the questions that I went through and in no particular order of importance:
1. DRW trucks have a lower load capacity
2. DRW trucks cost more in tires
3. DRW will have more stability in adverse situations
4. I could never see any "significant" advantage to a shorter bed.
The disadvantage would be in carrying my quad in the back of my truck which just fits in the 8 ft. bed.
5. DRW trucks are more difficult to park in shopping malls.
I tow a 32 ' Holiday Rambler TT which weighs about 12k loaded. I use NO less than a E or G rated tire on both my trailer and truck.
Hope this helps.
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Washboy
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djgarcia95928 wrote:
1. DRW trucks have a lower load capacity
Dick, could you please help me with that?
GMC website states the 3500 dually has a GVWR of 11,400 lbs. while the SRW is 9,900 lbs.
A dually option may add up to 300 lbs for the extra wheels and tires but it’s more likely to be 200 lbs.
So, if the SRW truck weighs 7500 lbs with 9,900 GVWR, its carrying capacity is 2,400 lbs.
The same truck with duals weighs 7800 lbs with 11,400 GVWR. That’s 3,600lbs of carrying capacity…1,200 lbs more than the SRW truck.
What am I misunderstanding here?
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