Counselor1
Texas
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I have been the proud owner of an Itasca 31' class c for about 10 years. My family has grown to six members, so I am now looking for a larger unit. I have been researching the Super C's and am now thinking about the 2012 Jayco Seneca 37 FS. This is a bunk model and sleeps 10.
The Seneca and the Gulf Stream Super Nova seem to be the only current year model Super C's out there. I can't decide to pull the trigger for lack of other options. Can anyone give me some hint on the quality level of the Seneca?
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pianotuna
Regina, SK, Canada
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Hi,
Have you considered just pulling a travel trailer with the existing RV? Or even just a bunkhouse unit?
Regards, Don
Kustom Koach Class C 28'5" 256 watts solar, 875 amp hours in two battery banks 12 volt batteries 2500 watt inverter.
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Dune Hauler
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Counselor1, I was in the same shoes a few months ago, I looked at the Seneca and just bought a Dynamax 34XV. I don't want to go off on Jayco but 3 units I walked and drove had a lot of quality problems. PM me if you want to hear all the bad points, I dont want to flame them here. also look at Renegade, I was torn between the two and found a good deal on the Dynamax after I couldn't find a 2600SMX in stock.
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Bob86ZZ4
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Have you considered a Truck Conversion? There are lots of used ones available for much less than a new Super C. Just google "truck conversions" and see what you get.
'03 United Specialties truck conversion built on Freightliner FL112 chassis, Cat C-12 motor, 10 speed autoshift, 430h/p, 1650 torque, love the truck conversion.
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az99
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Dune Hauler wrote: I don't want to go off on Jayco but 3 units I walked and drove had a lot of quality problems. X2 I just got an Embark and the quality and total lack of workmanship is unbelievable. Jayco units must be built by blind careless people with no pride in workmanship at all. The dealer and I fixed dozens of problems that were just shear carelessness when built. You would think when they are only building them 2-4 at a time, they could get some thing right. I would never again recommend a Jayco anything to anyone.
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Counselor1
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az99 wrote:Dune Hauler wrote: I don't want to go off on Jayco but 3 units I walked and drove had a lot of quality problems. X2 I just got an Embark and the quality and total lack of workmanship is unbelievable. Jayco units must be built by blind careless people with no pride in workmanship at all. The dealer and I fixed dozens of problems that were just shear carelessness when built. You would think when they are only building them 2-4 at a time, they could get some thing right. I would never again recommend a Jayco anything to anyone.
How is the coach now that you have repaired the original problems?
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G7ARYM
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There was a version of the Kodiak based Seneca from 2007 until the end of availability with 2 bunks in the bedroom slide. Mine is a 34SS so I do not remember the bunk model designation. We have been pleased with the quality of ours as we looked at 4 different makers of rigs using the Kodiak truck and the Jayco looked the best. There are probably a number of well sorted out low mile models with the bunks to be found with a little looking as an alternative. Good hunting
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az99
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Counselor1 wrote:az99 wrote:Dune Hauler wrote: I don't want to go off on Jayco but 3 units I walked and drove had a lot of quality problems. X2 I just got an Embark and the quality and total lack of workmanship is unbelievable. Jayco units must be built by blind careless people with no pride in workmanship at all. The dealer and I fixed dozens of problems that were just shear carelessness when built. You would think when they are only building them 2-4 at a time, they could get some thing right. I would never again recommend a Jayco anything to anyone.
How is the coach now that you have repaired the original problems? Don't know as it is still being fixed. The little I have used it, the M2 chassis is a HUGE improvement over the old Kodiaks. The Jayco box is where all the problems lie.
The poor engineering and assembly is evident front to back. The paint shop did a beautiful job though (probably not done at Jayco).
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shermanyoung34
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Counselor:
I have owned a used 2007 34SS for about a year. Before the purchase, we feel in love with the floor plan and interior design. Before and after the purchase I did a lot of reading on the quality of Jayco. I have found many opinions on both sides as to all makes of MHs. After the purchase, my experience has also been mixed. Some parts of the MH are excellent. Others have been found wanting. So far, nothing I have encountered has been too much for me not to fix on my own. I have found a number of websites that have been helpful to me. I settled on this one and a group on Yahoo. You might try the Yahoo Kodiak Chasis group. There you will find much discussion of technical problems and solutions.
While my experience is limited, I believe that many issues are inherent to the motion and vibration that are unavoidable in any MH. Screws and other devices just work themselves loose. So I try to be very attentive in the preventative maintenance department. Locktite is a wonderful invention.
Also, many owners of Kodiak upgrade the suspension. I have done so and it helps a great deal. I think that the stock Chevrolet suspension for the Kodiak based Seneca is at the top end of its capacity. After the upgrades the MH is quite nice to drive. I understand the newer versions do not require an upgrade because they are built on a heavier chasis. The Duramax and Allison are wonderful. I live in the Mountain States and to date, have never wished I had more power. Most folks say that they get in the range of 10 mpg.
Best of luck,
Sherman
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AndyAmes
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I am a fan of Jayco. I am on the 3rd Jayco and 2nd Seneca. change mainly for floor plan, because we now have the 36MS which is a full wall slide. Each experience is what was expected.
The number one opinions when talking to people at the RV shows (i.e. Tampa RV Show last week) when walking through the various Class A and C models are two main reasons to go with a Super C. 1) driveability and 2) price. Using a truck chassis gives the driver a more comfortable and traditional feel vs. a class A that has a different feel sitting over the wheels and type of chassis. Price point it may be what is in their budget. Super Cs give you some upgrades that a traditional class C does not have. since chevy no longer builds a diesel truck chassis most manufacturers have turned to the Fregihtliner M2 chassis. Good choice from what I have heard from owners, except it does raise the price point. Good luck.
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