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Don't believe you can bring firearms/ammo into Canada.
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Us out West wrote:Don't believe you can bring firearms/ammo into Canada.
No, you can't, unless it is the right firearm, and you jump through the proper hoops.
But, just how does that relate to a move from CA to OR? Going by way of Canada would be the LONG way around!
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Just a comment on carrying firearms/ammo.
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doc brown wrote:I carry 500-1,000+ rounds and never thought about it. If I have a gun I need ammo! Why so many rounds? Practice, traveling to a competition or just in case! That ought to get some of you all excited.
A few years ago, my uncle got a good price on .22LR ammo (a guy was relocating & preferred to sell his inventory than move it), so he stocked up. He bought twenty-five cases of it. IIRC, it was 10,000 rounds per case. (The guy loaded it into my truck with a forklift.)
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You are fine. There are no limits on transporting personally owned ammunition between states.
The only problem that may arise, is if your destination forbids specific types of ammo such as HP's,or AP. I checked, that is not the case in OR.
Look up the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA)
Also this should be considered required reading for any RV or Camper owner that travels with a firearm. http://www.gunlaws.com/travel.htm
I keep a copy in my TV.
Hope this reply was helpful.
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mowermech wrote:Us out West wrote:Don't believe you can bring firearms/ammo into Canada.
No, you can't, unless it is the right firearm, and you jump through the proper hoops.
But, just how does that relate to a move from CA to OR? Going by way of Canada would be the LONG way around!
On ANY gun thread you can count on a post reminding us that you can't bring guns into Canada, whether relevant or not. It's a given. It WILL happen. I'm just surprised it took this long.
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NRALIFR wrote:mowermech wrote:Us out West wrote:Don't believe you can bring firearms/ammo into Canada.
No, you can't, unless it is the right firearm, and you jump through the proper hoops.
But, just how does that relate to a move from CA to OR? Going by way of Canada would be the LONG way around!
On ANY gun thread you can count on a post reminding us that you can't bring guns into Canada, whether relevant or not. It's a given. It WILL happen. I'm just surprised it took this long.
Actually you can. But there are a bunch of hoops to go through, criteria to meet (no short barreled handguns!) and fees to pay. People from the US still go to Canada to hunt all the time -- and take their guns, ammo, and RVs with them. It just costs them more and there is more red tape than there used to be.
Here are the regs:
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5044-eng.html
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Thanks for keeping this thread (somewhat) clean, I learned a lot.
And to the OP congrats on moving to Oregon. A friend lives there and I do envy him in some ways.
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Been a great thread. Never knew some states have laws against hollow point ammo. Guess we all better carry fragible ammo. Better stopping power anyway.
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Chuck&Gail wrote:Been a great thread. Never knew some states have laws against hollow point ammo. Guess we all better carry fragible ammo. Better stopping power anyway.
I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't outlawed some place too. In legislatures all over the country (and in congress too) they keep introducing legislation to outlaw all ammunition with jacketed bullets, ostensibly because they penetrate police body armor. But the truth is, there is armor piercing ammo, jacketed ammo, and plain lead ammo. The jacketed ammo that is not armor piercing will not pierce because of its jacket. It may pierce because the armor is not sufficient for the velocity of the ammo. But if you go to a level 4 vest, it will stop the non armor piercing jacketed stuff.
What few people realize is that to effectively hunt large game like elk, bear, and moose, you need a certain amount of energy. There are two ways of getting this -- mass or velocity. It is easier to get it with velocity, and also gives you something with a reasonable trajectory for use at the ranges where these animals are typically encountered. At those velocities, an unjacketed bullet will leave huge lead deposits behind in the barrel that are extremely difficult to remove.
Unjacked bullets, which is what they want us limited to, can really only be used to hunt quarry up to the size of whitetail deer, and then the range is limited to about 10 yards because these are some of the weakest rounds there is. In fact, in many states, it is illegal to use these combos for hunting because the chances of just wounding the animal are way to high.
Now I know there are a lot of people who don't like hunting. They want to give deer contraceptives. Here on the east coast a number of states have formed study groups to deal with the deer population problems and they are usually stacked with a number of antihunting and animal rights people. In the end, all of them have begrudgingly admitted that hunting is the only practical means of population control, and without it we will have an ecological disaster. These ammo bans are dangerous with regards to this issue.
Now that I have hijacked this thread (it's original purpose has already played out anyway), some will say we don't need guns to hunt -- use bows and arrows. Well a lot of people do. I have a number of friends who do. But then again, I take a look at their success rate as a function of the numbers of hours they spend hunting with each type of weapon. Hunting with a modern rifle is about 10 times more effective. So it comes down to an issue of time. I don't hunt with a bow because I don't have enough time. I know a lot of people who used to hunt with a gun, but don't hunt anymore because they don't have the time. The number of hunters in this country is on the decline, and it is starting to alarm the game management divisions in the state governments. If this trend is not reversed, we are headed toward a disaster down the road.
Now lets take a look at some economics. I hunt deer, turkey, and squirrel. Do you know how much I get paid? Nothing. I take care of an issue for society and I don't get paid one dime. In fact, I foot the bill for the majority of all of it. Every time I buy anything for hunting (guns, ammo, boots, tree stands, etc.) there is an 11% federal excise tax on it (collected at the manufacturers level). This money is doled out to the state wildlife agencies based on the number of hunting licenses they sell. Then there is the money I pay for my hunting license. Most years my Maryland license is free because I am a senior hunter safety instructor -- as long as I teach two classes a year my license is free. But I also pay a good chunk of change to Virginia every year too. These funds typically cover 90 percent or more of the state wildlife agency budgets.
So not only do hunters take care of societies issue for free, we pay to do it and fund the majority of the costs for management of wildlife, including half of the species out there, which we don't hunt. Show me any other government program that is this successful. Every other program I know of requires the government to pay out money to someone. The only thing that comes close is some of the volunteer programs, but even those require training and in some cases providing housing. Hunter safety is paid for out of that 11% excise tax, and hunters pay for their own housing. Sometime motels, or in my case, I have paid Columbia Northwest (the Aliner I used to own), and Jayco. I have also paid out money to some RV dealers and I help keep my RV parts guy down in College Park employed (the primary purpose of me owning a trailer has alway been hunting -- 2/3 or better of its use is for that purpose).
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