Herewego
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Okay, here's my question.
Recommended life expectancy of my tires is "X" years. Call it, 6 years. I'm assuming this recommendation is with air in the tires.
What's the life expectancy if I were to use nitrogen?
What's the risk factor reduced to if I use nitrogen. And I'm asking for solid statistics, as opposed to less water in your tires, etc.
Again, the point is "X" years with air. Is there a distinct, tangible difference, by way of extended life of the tire by using nitrogen?
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Sully2
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Herewego wrote:Okay, here's my question.
Recommended life expectancy of my tires is "X" years. Call it, 6 years. I'm assuming this recommendation is with air in the tires.
What's the life expectancy if I were to use nitrogen?
Six years...1 day...9 hours...22 minutes...38 seconds....37 seconds.....36 seconds...LOL
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doc brown
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No. Tire life is primarily a function of uv radiation, heat from friction and weight load. You can minimize uv damage with a product such as 303 and when parked for extended periods outside cover them. You can inimize heat damage by keeping the tires properly inflated. Weight load should not be an issue assuming you have the correct tires mounted. Since about 72% of air is nitrogen 100% nitrogen (if that is what is dispensed) would have no impact one way or the other. You biggest concern would be moisture dispensed with whatever gas you are putting in the tires since this could cause slight wheel erosion. I use carbon dioxide gas! Keep the tires inflated as directed and use those tires!
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Don Don
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Herewego wrote:Okay, here's my question.
Recommended life expectancy of my tires is "X" years. Call it, 6 years. I'm assuming this recommendation is with air in the tires.
What's the life expectancy if I were to use nitrogen?
What's the risk factor reduced to if I use nitrogen. And I'm asking for solid statistics, as opposed to less water in your tires, etc.
Again, the point is "X" years with air. Is there a distinct, tangible difference, by way of extended life of the tire by using nitrogen?
Honestly, I don't believe anyone can tell you until we find someone who has had it in there tires all the time. Until then the Jury is out.
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Herewego
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Don Don...I don't disagree.
By the way, I'm open to any suggestion, but I just don't see that the slight benefit to using nitrogen with respect to say, less water in the tire, is going to extend tire life, so, why bother.
I know, I know, it's used in aircraft. But, I'm sure the reasons/benefits are different than the practical application in an RV. RV's I would assume get more use.
If someone is happy using nitrogen, I'm happy for them. I just want to hear from folks about the DRASTIC reasons to use it, vs. what comes out of my Craftsman compressor. So far, no one can provide any compelling reasons. For me, anyway.
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Oldfordman
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 Everyone points to Race Cars (they usually use nitrogen because they carry nitrogen botles to power their power tools) and aircraft (higher pressures usually required and nitrogen used due to fire prevention requirements of aircraft) as a reason to go to nitrogen in RV, Truck, and Passenger tires.
As a retiree from the Tire Industry, I can tell you of numerous meetings (Marketing) where this was discussed SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCREASING PROFITS AT THE STORE LEVEL!!!!
Air is free and you can't charge for it when installing new tires. You can charge more for Nitrogen inflation.
If you want more life out of your tires, the following are FREE, or almost free steps that will do more than nitrogen. Add free air when underinflated. Don't overload tires. Cover tires to protect from UV radiation (Sunlight) when not driving. These will give far more life to your tires than the extra 20% or so nitrogen you will add to your tires.
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edited 07/18/06 01:22pm by Oldfordman *
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Sully2
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Oldfordman wrote:As a retiree from the Tire Industry, I can tell you of numerous meetings (Marketing) where this was discussed SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCREASING PROFITS AT THE STORE LEVEL!!!!
GASP!!..Im totally appalled that someone would want to introduce truth and logic into internet BB postings.....LMAO
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hamguy
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Herewego wrote:Okay, here's my question.
Recommended life expectancy of my tires is "X" years. Call it, 6 years. I'm assuming this recommendation is with air in the tires.
What's the life expectancy if I were to use nitrogen?
What's the risk factor reduced to if I use nitrogen. And I'm asking for solid statistics, as opposed to less water in your tires, etc.
Again, the point is "X" years with air. Is there a distinct, tangible difference, by way of extended life of the tire by using nitrogen?
I will give $1000 to anyone showing a scientifically based proof of any -
1) Increase in lifetime of a tire, or
2) Performance improvement on
any vacation style or full time factory unaltered RV driven by the owner in non-track conditions.
I don't want some idiot claiming his uncle Amy got an improvement from 7.4 to 42 MPG.
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Don Don
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How about someone putting putting up a $1000 to prove to me that is does not make a difference.
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Kajtek1
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I can put $10,000 that it does. but...
as you can find in my MYTH BUSTERS thread, commercial tires run with air last for well over 30 years (still have one on my coach to keep proving the point).
When nitrogen could extend their life past 50-years mark, I am not planning to wait.
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