LarryJM

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I hope you have fixed what appears to be some fairly serious leakage in the roof area in those pics from the wavy ceiling panels. That doesn't bode well down the road.
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welove2drive

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LarryJM wrote:
I hope you have fixed what appears to be some fairly serious leakage in the roof area in those pics from the wavy ceiling panels. That doesn't bode well down the road.
Larry
We had a few things to repair when we got the trailer. One of which was track down some leaks. Gotta love it. I am happy with the way the shower rod turned out and hope to try it out yet this year.
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welove2drive wrote: LarryJM wrote:
I hope you have fixed what appears to be some fairly serious leakage in the roof area in those pics from the wavy ceiling panels. That doesn't bode well down the road.
Larry
We had a few things to repair when we got the trailer. One of which was track down some leaks. Gotta love it. I am happy with the way the shower rod turned out and hope to try it out yet this year.
Dave
I'd agree...ceiling there is pretty wavey
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I like the mod but why not just add a breaker? Is your panel maxed with breakers and no room to add? If so, you could have used a tandem breaker to give you the expansion room in the box. With another breaker you would not have to plug in another cord. Then again, even if not maxed with breakers a 30 AMP connection is still limited at times. The only thing you did not note is if you used a GFCI outlet on the first outlet wired in? Since it is wired to the bathroom one would be needed if you did not.
Also, I noticed you used 14 AWG wire (15 AMP) not 12 AWG (20 AMP) 12 wire would have given you the full 20 AMP capability from the pole you plug into. Those are usually rated 20 AMP at most campgrounds.
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Well, first I am no electrician! I saw this done on another forum, or by another member, can't recall. Basically I just figured it to be a hard mounted extension cord. Most electrical posts at campgrounds have breaker on the 20a plug so I figured that would cover it. Maybe I should add a GFCI... never thought about that! Thanks for the insight. Like I said I am no electrician, and this seemed simple enough.
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added the ultra fab 3502 electric jack today and started mounting the stabilizer bars to the front scissor jacks today and will work on some more mods tommorrow before heading out for our last trip of the year.
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Lantley

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sdavis622 wrote: Well, first I am no electrician! I saw this done on another forum, or by another member, can't recall. Basically I just figured it to be a hard mounted extension cord. Most electrical posts at campgrounds have breaker on the 20a plug so I figured that would cover it. Maybe I should add a GFCI... never thought about that! Thanks for the insight. Like I said I am no electrician, and this seemed simple enough.
What you have is a potential hazard your 15 amp wire could heat up before the 20 amp breaker trips. Beware! A GFI outlet would also be nice but using the wrong wire is more of a danger than omitting the GFI.
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sdavis622 wrote: Well, first I am no electrician! I saw this done on another forum, or by another member, can't recall. Basically I just figured it to be a hard mounted extension cord. Most electrical posts at campgrounds have breaker on the 20a plug so I figured that would cover it. Maybe I should add a GFCI... never thought about that! Thanks for the insight. Like I said I am no electrician, and this seemed simple enough.
I would pull the proper 12 AWG wire rated 20 Amp and add a GFCI to the first outlet in the run. Easy fix to make it right. If that 15 AMP wire was ever overloaded on a 20 amp circuit the result could be very bad and result in a fire. The 20 Amp breaker on the pole does not prevent electrocution only a GFCI can do that. The breaker only prevents the overloading of a circuit. Good Luck.
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sdavis622 wrote: Well, first I am no electrician! I saw this done on another forum, or by another member, can't recall. Basically I just figured it to be a hard mounted extension cord. Most electrical posts at campgrounds have breaker on the 20a plug so I figured that would cover it. Maybe I should add a GFCI... never thought about that! Thanks for the insight. Like I said I am no electrician, and this seemed simple enough.
I did this mod a while back, and I used 14 AWG wire. This outlet is used for a toaster oven, a griddle or a hair dryer. Always one at a time, so overloading the wire is not a worry. The cords on the appliances are much thinner than the 14 AWG wire I used to wire the outlet.
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sonicsix wrote: sdavis622 wrote: Well, first I am no electrician! I saw this done on another forum, or by another member, can't recall. Basically I just figured it to be a hard mounted extension cord. Most electrical posts at campgrounds have breaker on the 20a plug so I figured that would cover it. Maybe I should add a GFCI... never thought about that! Thanks for the insight. Like I said I am no electrician, and this seemed simple enough.
I did this mod a while back, and I used 14 AWG wire. This outlet is used for a toaster oven, a griddle or a hair dryer. Always one at a time, so overloading the wire is not a worry. The cords on the appliances are much thinner than the 14 AWG wire I used to wire the outlet.

The issue has nothing to do with the cord on the appliance. The issue involves protection on the circuit. Sdavis22 installed 15 amp wire on a 20amp circuit. In the event of an overload the 20 amp breaker will not trip until 20 amps however the wire will begin to heat when the current exceeds its 15 amp rating. This heat has the potential to start a fire. 14 wire is designed to work on a 15 amp circuit not a 20 amp circuit. 12 wire is rated for a 20 amp circuit.
Keep in mind if your appliance has a short in its cord or anywhere else the circuit,the breaker is designed to trip. If the wire is not properly matched to the breaker the circuit may never trip. The wire will heat up just like it is part of the toaster. Only instead of toasting bread it may toast your RV. Using an underrated wire is just plain wrong and a potential hazard. All Romex wire is not created equal. They make different wire for different applications.
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