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BWhite

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If one wont use a locking gas cap, for fear . Then you must not lock your coach,for fear . Then you must not lock your house and car , for fear . Damage will be caused with a breaking and entering for any of the items listed . Please explain how appeasing crime helps ?


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BWhite wrote:

If one wont use a locking gas cap, for fear . Then you must not lock your coach,for fear . Then you must not lock your house and car , for fear . Damage will be caused with a breaking and entering for any of the items listed . Please explain how appeasing crime helps ?


Well I almost fit the bill. My moho is in my yard every compartment door unlocked drivers door and side door unlocked the keys are hanging on the hook right inside the side door. My truck has a serious electrical problem that wont let my doors lock so it sits in my driveway and everywere else I take it unlocked. 95% of the time the back door to our house is always either open or unlocked. I guess its just ones comfort level.


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pingpong wrote:

Well, we went to our storage facility to pick up our motorhome and I noticed there looked like a fuel stain (like it was spilled) on the bottom part of the small fuel door...very unusual, because we are very picky about our motorhome and my husband would have cleaned it off...and not spilled in the first place. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Upon investigating, my husband was able to see what the computer said was our fuel amount/miles to go when we parked. Funny it dropped pretty quickly after he got going. So our suspicions were confirmed...someone had stolen fuel from our motorhome!

Dirty rotten scoundrels!

It's a secured facilities, but unfortunately the cameras are set so they just miss our motorhome.

Sooooooo...thinking about putting locked gas caps on it...everyone else seems to have them...the other larger motorhomes that are parked nearby.

Pros? Cons? Where would I purchase one? Camping World? Are they all the same? The same size?

Thanks for any info! GRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Wonder how they knew that the cameras coudn't see your coach?


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How about not adding a locking cap, while in storage and leaving just a little in the tank. It is gonna go stale anyway. If it is stolen, you don't loose much and if not stolen it takes very little Stabil. Maybe take two gallons of gas with you to get to the station with. I am also one that believes a thief woll punch a whole in your tank but only a few will. It is like insurance. What is the right balance of acceptable risk, risk protection and bottom line cost.


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The 'he said' reports I have seen say a battery powered drill was used. Every battery powered drill I have seen has open brushes, they are not rated for use in explosive atmosphere.

So how come there aren't a bunch of fires reported from this? That would make the news.


Why should there be fires? There aren't any fumes around until the hole is drilled and gas has leaked out, and by that time the drill is off and they're moving the gas can into place! A lot of vehicles today have plastic gas tanks, so no sparks from the drilling itself, so really it's fairly safe to do it.

There were a number of confirmed reports of this happening in Salt Lake City last summer. Reported on all the local news services. The company my wife works for had a number of vans hit over a one month period. All had the tank drilled. So, maybe this isn't common, but it's far from being an urban legend.


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I had some gas stolen from my '76 Bronco while it was parked at a boat launch for a weekend. I was camping at the far end of the lake at the time. It has a 7-gal front tank and a 24-gal rear tank. The rear tank had a locking gas cap that wasn't working properly. Both caps were removed with the rear totally missing. But they didn't take the gas via siphon, they removed the drain plug on the rear tank with pliers. When I got back to the Bronco, I noticed it all and gas still dripping from the tank at about a drip/second. They were "kind enough" to replace the plug, although it was only hand tight. I figure they only stole about 5-gal with about anothe gallon wasted on the ground.

The strange thing is that it was a fairly remote area, someone would have had to driven a long ways for only a few gallons of gas. Maybe someone was in desperate need of fuel to get back home, but I didn't find any $20 bill under the wiper blade or anything.

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My husband's commuter van was parked at a local shopping center overnight. One morning they went to leave and realized the gas tank was empty. It had been punctured. They filed a police report and the van had to be towed. After that experience, someone drove it home each night. They also had a hard time getting the insurance company to pay up because the insurance company said they should have known that would happen and taken precautions. They eventually paid up.


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JoeyJettt wrote:

I use Snopes to try to check out a lot of these things.

Couldn't fine anything on this subject, ...
That's because Snopes confirms or denies "Wives Tales" and internet folklore. This is neither.


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mnoeltne wrote:

itsalleasy wrote:

The 'he said' reports I have seen say a battery powered drill was used. Every battery powered drill I have seen has open brushes, they are not rated for use in explosive atmosphere.

So how come there aren't a bunch of fires reported from this? That would make the news.


Why should there be fires? There aren't any fumes around until the hole is drilled and gas has leaked out, and by that time the drill is off and they're moving the gas can into place! A lot of vehicles today have plastic gas tanks, so no sparks from the drilling itself, so really it's fairly safe to do it.

A drill isn't flat on the end, it doesn't cleanly punch thru, especially in light metal (or plastic). As the point starts to go thru gas will start leaking before the hole is complete.

Sparks from drilling metal wouldn't be my concern, the sparks from the brushes of the drill motor would.

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In 31+ years of policing, I don't remember a single incident of a fuel tank being punctured to steal the fuel. I'm sure it's happened but it's not that easy to do. Getting something under the MH to catch the fuel then getting the container out from under and away from the MH..... Well, let's just say it's not real high on my things to be concerned about.


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