pkunk
Questa, NM
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When I had my WW Drilling business, I never put tires on either the drill rig (65,000lbs. or the tender (rated 36,000lbs. but often overloaded with 1000gal H20)for over 18 years. I did however religiously maintain higher than normal pressures (not concerned with ride comfort)& removed stones, etc once pavement was reached. These were not OTR rigs running high milage but did obtain highway speeds. Much like a MH except more off road travel. I never had a tire failure in those 18 years. The tires still had excellent tread when I sold it. I did not warn the buyer that the tires were old. It all was old and used. TIFWIW
Gale Hawkins wrote:50pascals wrote:randallb wrote:Geetar,
Did it ever cross your mind that you may have run over something? Just because the tire was old does not mean that this is the reason the tire failed. Everyone immediately blames the old tire for the failure but a road hazard may have been the cause. You bought an inexpensive used RV not a new one.
Randy
Good catch!
Guitarbug welcome to the site and MH ownership. The tire service guy was either dishonest or uninformed in what he told you.
Truck tires 20 years old can be found in use around the world today. Yes there are tires that blow out but age as in years has never been the known cause of a tire blow out posted on this website.
Short of having a TPMS working 24/7 when one is rolling you just can not know. Physical damage, defective materials/workmanship, overloading and under inflating are about it as to the cause of tire tire blow outs with the last two making up the main cause of tire failure.
I ran my spare last year for a few hundred miles that was made in 2000. There is not any cracking or physical signs of age and it is still my spare because it passes inspection. There are three year old tires that I would not trade for it however and that is where physical inspection in required for any tire. We pull and wash ours each year when we inspect pads and general health of what is behind the lug nuts.
Would you have bought a used tire like the one that blew to put on your MH even before the blow out? You bought some old used tires and was trying to run you MH on them.
As other posted most of us has had a learning experience with vehicles in the past. 
That is just the way most learn. This forum can help you IF you keep in mind much of the info here is just as valid as the service guy that showed up when you blew the tire.
Just keep in mind age alone was NOT the cause of your blow out.
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Gale Hawkins
Murray, KY
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Stim wrote:I have inspected thousands of tires, most on semis, measured tread depth and entered info on FHWA inspection forms. I would not guaranty the first to the last tire that I inspected to go more than 10 feet!
I worked in the transportation field for over 30 years and I have NEVER seen so many people so anal about tires and dates as I have seen on this forum!
Tires exist in the worst possible conditions and there are infinite varribles from their manufacturing to their use that can cause their failure.
Also, I can't imagine any dealer not having you sign an "As Is" agreement, that is standard today.
Stim the current anal subject just happens to be tire dates but that will change I am sure any day now.
Seriously I think the tire issues are complex for a lot of people so understand so they make up rules that makes them feel more in control of tire blowouts and just blame age for misuse and abuse. Actually misuse and abuse does age a tire faster than expected so their 4-7 years rule does work for in those cases quite well.
Some do not understand buying used MH tires (when they buy used MH's) is a******shot at best. Milking miles out of used tires with unknown history and any cracks that may raise a question about safety is not a good thing to do in my view.
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guitarbug
Fort Worth
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Wow again so many responses wish i could reply to all of them, Thanks to all. A little update, we call the dealer in the morning and told him about what happened and at first he was quick to say "well a new tire could blow at anytime" then i reminded him of our conversation about the low tire tread and and him saying you should get 10,00 out of them and his other co-worker said we could get about 20k. I was very careful not to make a scene in front of other customers and even stopped talking as a few people walked by. I think he respected that and was reminded that i to own a business in town and talk to a lot of people. He seemed genuinely concerned when i whipped out the tire and showed him the date and also the cracks in the tires that did not blow. I showed him the gas line and wires that were ripped out and he looked pretty scared and said just leave it here and we will take care of it. I did mention to him that all the tires would need to be replaced and he said yea they look original! I believe they are going to do the right thing and it was funny because when we were leaving he gave us a road atlas and another RV handbook that would have been very helpful this week. I am still very excited and cannot wait to hit the road soon! Thanks to all and I can say I have learned one thing from all this "Check those tire dates even when buying new tires."
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50pascals
rochester, ny
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If they continue to have a good response to your bad situation, they may have a customer for life.
In my business, we only had 1 real screw up that cost me any money. We overwhelmed her with generosity in our repair. Left the room better than when we started - by a mile. She was a happier customer due to our response than she would have been if we had not had a problem!
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Daveinet
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Does anyone blame the dingbat motorhome manufacturer for putting the gas line so near the wheel wells? Or is the engineer the same guy who designed the Ford Pinto?
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Gale Hawkins
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Daveinet wrote:Does anyone blame the dingbat motorhome manufacturer for putting the gas line so near the wheel wells? Or is the engineer the same guy who designed the Ford Pinto?
Do you have to always ask the hard questions?
Hey the Ford Pinto was designed to kill of the Datsun and Toyota threat and save US workers their jobs. Its success can be questioned.
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StanleyandIris
Louisiana
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Even if he doesn't want to replace all the tires, you must before you go anywhere. Ours looked brand new, no visible marks anywhere, oringinal to the MH and only 21K on them. But, they were 7 years old and the MH was from TX. We replaced the tires pronto just to avoid the situation at hand.
I am so happy none of you were injured.
Iris
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Tinstar
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Daveinet wrote:Does anyone blame the dingbat motorhome manufacturer for putting the gas line so near the wheel wells? Or is the engineer the same guy who designed the Ford Pinto?
I've always wondered why they don't protect the things that are placed in the wheel wells also. My bil blew a rear tire and he had to re-wire a lot of stuff because it tore a lot of electrical wires loose (120 and 12 volt)
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HobbyHauler
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Buying a used RV is no different from buying a used car. Did your RV have any written warrantee? Probably not. Sold as-is. Same with a used car.
Buyer beware.
If a buyer is uneducated, how is that the seller’s problem?
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WTD44
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I AM ASHAMED THAT NO ONE HAS BROUGHT UP:
1. Tire presure
2. Weigh all 4 corners
3. Inferrior muffler bearings
4. M.P.G.
All of these things are important for the newbee to know
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