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Sportsman Matt

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Posted: 09/19/09 03:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

How many miles did your truck have on it when you bought it?

The reason I ask is that the stock oem GM pads (AC Delco) are ceramic and typically last 75k-100k miles... They also have little dust and no rumble. And that's working hard...

I have some hawk super duty pads that I haven't put on yet. These won't last as long as OEM and will make more noise (rumble to a stop) - they have a higher coefficient of friction and the compound works better as temps rise - no fade...

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Had 23,566 miles on the truck when I bought it, but the brakes were all pitted and rusted from sitting outside without being driven. Deal was they threw in new brake pads and resurfaced the rotors as part of the sale, as everything else was like new condition (sans the small coffee stain in the carpet which they got out when detailing the truck before I picked it up)

Downfall is that the brakes they put in weren't ceramics, they were good old fashioned semi metallic brake pads, and they got chewed up. So to say that they would have lasted XX,XXX miles, isn't the case, as it also depends on miles driven, driving conditions, terrain, speeds, traffic, etc.

One fellow posted about Autozone doing the repairs. I'd like to know which Autozone does it, as I have several up here around the area and not one does actual repairs, just sells parts.

And for the record I am doing the repairs myself, I just figured if they came back with a reasonable quote, I would have them do it while it was up on the lift for the oil change at the same time and not have to work on it on the ground outside.


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I'm over 70k on my one ton dually and brakes are about 30% gone. I believe it is the Allison transmission, which causes me to use very little brakes on a trip that are saving wear and tear on the rakes.

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fishfinder wrote:

The front disc brakes on my previous truck (98 F150) lasted 112,000 miles and the rear drum brakes were still OK. That truck carried my pop-up TC and towed my boat (w/o trailer brakes) for years.

That amazed me since I've heard that the F150's had poor brakes.

We'll see how long the brakes last on my new Chevy.


Maybe the "poor" rating came from the stopping quality and not the longevity? Generally speaking the longer the brakes last the poorer they are at stopping (not always).

Either way that's an amazing life for disc brakes. You must drive it well.

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From family experience, if one knows how to drive and uses their engine, transmission and momentum to slow down more than their brakes, you can get around 50,000-75,000 (or more) miles out of a good set of pads and shoes.

I used my transmission to brake alot when traveling on highways. Keeps my brakes from getting too hot. I fully exercised every gear in my transmission when driving through eastern Oregon.


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sleepy wrote:

The OEM original brakes are in good shape. We don't drive above 60 mph and don't do any hard braking. We were told based on our use history that we can expect another 20,000 miles or more.

What do you think that I should expect for total brake life?


Same on my 02' 2500HD Chevy, which has about 70k miles on it. Brakes have never been replaced on it yet.

Chevy Dealer I go to says they see some of the 99 and newer trucks come in with nearly 100k on them for their first brake job


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Posted: 09/19/09 11:33pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think some people are just hard on brakes. DW is one of them.

I get 40k out of mine. I am getting ready for the wear indicators to squeak at 160k. I will need to slap some on the rear this time also. 80k seems to be enough for the rear. Rotors are original and never turned.


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I have 78,000 on my factory brakes ('01) the fronts show some wear, the rear verrrry little. I drive using my exhaust brake all the time, I have a switch on the shift lever.. A friend was riding with me while we were pulling 5,000 pounds recently across town. After awhile he remarked that I never seem to use the brakes except just before I come to a stop. Of course that only works well with a manual tranny.


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In my house regarding automotive care.

Rule #1 is to never take it to a dealer (or any other shop for that matter) for any reason.

Rule #2 Refer to Rule #1.

I have only purchased 1 new vehicle in my life, all the rest have been preowned from 3 years old to over 35 years old before I picked them up. The one vehicle that I purchased new (Toyota 4x4) was back in 1997, has 152K+ miles on it now, and still running factory brakes, clutch, and spark plugs. Only changed the tires once so far, and current tires are over 7 years old with 72K miles on them.

My preowned 1997 Ford that has been carrying around my 4000lb camper for 4 years now, is still rolling on factory rotors, drums and once replaced pads and shoes. Currently has 102k miles on it. Been a solid truck.


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smkettner wrote:

I think some people are just hard on brakes.


Absolutely true. But it also depeneds on what type of driving you do. I do a lot of highway driving; my brakes always last over 100k miles.


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Well I swapped out the pads yesterday, and will say that it was a huge PIA. One thing I did find was I still had 1/4" of wear on all the pads, but the wear spring (the nice piece of metal that tells you when to change the pads) was touching both sides of all 4 rotors. Pulled the new ones out of the box and the wear spring was identical in length and postition, only difference was the new pads had 7/16" thick brake lining. Wonder what the idea behing that was, seeing that the pads are glued on, no rivets, and they only get to wear 3/16". Makes me wonder, but next time I know that I'm not going to do damage to the rotors if the feelers are rubbing for a week or so until I can get the truck in for repair.

All in all, the truck is ready for the Haunted Happenings in October.

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