seldomseensmith
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Quote:Why do big TCs lean back?
Because they're all about taking it easy... 
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Sportsman Matt
Blackstone, MA
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Mine leans foreward, not back..
Then again I actually did the necessary suspension modifications to make sure the truck rides level, not nose up like most people
I'd rather see the road and not drive over the guy in the little electric hybred car that is lower than the hood of my truck, but most people don't want to spend the money to have air bags or springs added, even though they need them, partially because common sense would say that the salesman at the dealership selling the camper isn't making money unless you buy the largest camper he can get you to buy. So he shows you the top of the line camper, you buy it because the significant other loves something about it, and you then find out afterwards that it's about 3 times heavier than your tow vehicle. But the sale is done, and your choice is either upgrade the towing vehicle, modify the towing vehicle, or make do with the towing vehicle.
Thus the nose up tow vehicle is born (due to the last option listed above), and until someone makes a comment to the fellow about it, he'll keep right on doing what he's doing until he drives over the fellow in the hybred because he didn't see it over the hood.
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wnjj
Cornelius, Oregon
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I do recall this picture from Brad's Colorado trip (not his camper) that made me look twice. It looks like the camper is leaning quite a bit back, especially between the roof and cabover.
I thought it was leveled up that way since the jacks are down but the tiedowns are still connected. Maybe the springs in the tiedowns are compressed a bit more than normal?
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trails2004
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NRALIFR wrote:Optical illusion.
Plus, just a little bit of trollin' for effect, eh?
Here I am in a parking lot, loaded with gear for a two-week trip. Looks pretty level to me:
Now here's a picture with my old camper (which was lighter than the Lance), and it looks like the front axle is about to come off the ground! (Sorta) Wave to the babe...she's holdin' her glass of wine up:
One with the Lance, and now it looks like it's about to tip over!! You can almost hear the bed ripping off!!! (how's that for drama):
And then another one, sitting in a parking lot. Just mindin' our own bizniz. What the he.....it's level again. Maybe we threw all our gear out:
Conclusion: cameras lie sometimes.
EDIT: Almost forgot the best one. In this one it was so tail heavy, it wouldn't stay in the bed at all! I caught a picture of it sliding out:
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Jumbo Jet
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NRALIFR wrote:Optical illusion.
Here I am in a parking lot, loaded with gear for a two-week trip. Looks pretty level to me:
Now here's a picture with my old camper (which was lighter than the Lance), and it looks like the front axle is about to come off the ground! (Sorta) Wave to the babe...she's holdin' her glass of wine up:
One with the Lance, and now it looks like it's about to tip over!! You can almost hear the bed ripping off!!! (how's that for drama):
And then another one, sitting in a parking lot. Just mindin' our own bizniz. What the he.....it's level again. Maybe we threw all our gear out:
Conclusion: cameras lie sometimes.
You have added airbags and an extra leaf to the overloads. It better sit level.
My truck with Lance 1030 requires a 1/2" board under the rear of the Lance to keep the camper from resting on the fender rails - while the front of the rail has inches to spare. Part optical illusion and the way the lance is built.
There are some people that just don't get their truck set up correctly though.
Optical illusions
Looks like back end is sitting high in this picture:
Looks like back end is sitting low in this picture:
Same trip - no changes to camper or truck.
2008 Dodge Ram 3500 Cummins Turbo Diesel - 1999 Lance 1030 - Torklift Tiedowns, Stableloads, Derringers, Pigtail - Hellwig Anti-Sway Bar - Rickson 19.5" Aluminum wheels - Michelin XRV tires
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Butch50
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Mooney wrote:Not mine.
I agree with Mooney, not mine either, in fact my truck has over 4,000# capacity left before I reach my GVWR with the camper on.
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Reddog1
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Sometimes my TC/truck looks low in the back:
Sometimes, it looks high in the back:
And sometimes it looks level:
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colfaxent
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I have a new 2009 F350 short box SRW with a Lance 830. It does appear low in the bacl also . I did some measureing and the box is about 1" shallower in the fron than the rear, that is what gives it this appearance. The Truck and camper fit and haulling are great the 6.4l diesel doesnt even know it is on there. Maybe next time i load I will shim the rear up a little to give it a level appearance. Measure your boxes I think you will find the same thing.
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lance88lover
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DUH! The roof is slanted backwards on purpose. I looked at the frame blueprints on my Lance 1010 and yes there is a elevation from the front of the Air conditioner that slopes the roof backwards towards the rear corner. Since the A/C condensate drain drains directly on to the roof this design sends the water to the rear camper corners regardless if the camper is not level side to side.
This design is probably why if the rear corners are not caulked every year, the skirts end up rotting.
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drhutch
Centennial, CO
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The pic of Brad's camper looks like it isn't level due to the non level skyline of the mountain in the background. Ever drive on a mountain road and it looks like you are going downhill but you still have to have a lot of throttle down? Look back and you can see you are actually going uphill. The eye plays tricks when you don't have a level reference.
2003 Chevy 3500 EC Dually Dmax/Allison / Lance 980 11'3" camper
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