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Rando62

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Posted: 11/06/09 09:10am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'm new to this and was considering going to fulltime RVing and I am trying to do research on what equipment I may need to do it. I want to have the right equipment beacause I think it would reduce problems when on the road and be safer. Is there any 5er's on the market that would work with my current Truck I have a chevy 2500hd 4x4 the gvwr on the door is 9200lbs. any input is appriciated.

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I just switched from a 08 2500HD, which I loved, to a F350 dually. I went from a 9500# loaded Crossroads Cruiser to a 11150# empty Raptor. I do believe that a 2500HD is different from a 3500 srw only in that it has one less leaf spring in the rear and tires with a lower weight rating. The 2500 actually has a higher rear axle rating than the 3500. That said, I went to the dually because it makes me feel safer towing the heavier trailer. I also had a 6' bed on the 2500 and the new trailer has a regular not an extended pin. I guess people have to decide for themselves what they are comfortable towing. There are safety limits for every tow vehicle, even MDTs. I know enough about fifth wheel and truck specs to realize that there are many 3/4 tons out there that are dangerously overloaded. I don't think, however, that every 3/4 ton that is over its weight limits is necessarily unsafe. I am just a belt and suspender man, and not willing to take the chance.

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Check out the honest pin weight on 5vrs you might be interested in. It may surprise you. For instance, some of the short 5vrs like mine (Cardinal) have a heavy pin (2500lbs) because of design and the materials used in construction. The pin weight in my opinion is as important as the overall weight because this weight in on the rear axle and tires and is included in your 9200 pounds. Some of the longer 5vrs have a lower pin weight, but are heavier overall. So, it pays to do some research and see what your truck's specs are and the honest weights of the trailer you plan to pull. Good luck and Happy Camping.


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Bob Shaw wrote:

Hmm, when I bought my truck in 2002, the GMC 2500HD had a higher tow rating than the 3500HD.

That's true if you're talking about equally equipped pickups. However, the weak point of a 3/4-ton pickup will be the GVWR and, thus, payload...or the amount of hitch weight it can carry.

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Makes a big difference whether one will be towing a 5th wheel or a travel trailer. Tongue weight on a TT is usually much less than a 5th wheel pin weight.
The truck has a weight limit including tongue or pin weight and the trailer has a limit and then there is a limit on the combined weight. All need to be considerd. Hopefully not exceeding any one of the three.

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Thanks for all the info I did not think about the pin ratings and I will be sure to review the Pin ratings on the 5er's prior to purchase.

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Rando62 wrote:

I'm new to this and was considering going to fulltime RVing and I am trying to do research on what equipment I may need to do it. I want to have the right equipment beacause I think it would reduce problems when on the road and be safer. Is there any 5er's on the market that would work with my current Truck I have a chevy 2500hd 4x4 the gvwr on the door is 9200lbs. any input is appriciated.


Hi, my old 2500HD Chev, ext cab, short box, 4X4 Dmax Allison had a 9200lb GVWR.
With me, DW (we are avereage weight) full of fuel, bed liner, 5th wheel hitch and aluminum toolbox in the box with 150lbs+- "stuff" weighed 7600lbs, leaving only 1600lbs for pin weight

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It is all about the stability of the load which is directly affected by the pin weight. The difference in the Chevy 2500HD and 3500 Dually GVWR is 2200lbs the towing capasity difference with a fifth wheel and Diesel is 1000Lbs but the tongue capasity difference is 1331 Lbs so yes there is a difference. You have to be careful because the the RV dealers will tell you a lot of things about towing that may not be the whole truth. The pin weight is usually not something that is covered and most people do not ask. They just want to know how much the rig weighs and then will their TV pull it. After the fact it is too late to figure it out and the RV places usually do not care. I like the 2500 and as long as you know the facts, you can be safe.


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thanks I will be sure to ask a lot of questions

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Posted: 11/06/09 11:41am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My neighbor has a
2005 F-350 diesel Harley Davidson, CC, Short bed, 20 inch tires. I have a
2004 F-250 V-10 King Ranch, CC, Short bed, 18 inch tires. Our door stickers say we have the EXACT same rear axle capacity, but his front axle capacity is more than mine, and his combined weight is higher.(He has the diesel I have the V-10.) We also have the same rear 6 leaf spring package, I have the the camper special with stabilizers, he does not. He has front coil and I have front leaf springs. This again brings out the fact that somewhere, somehow, someone is not comparing apples to apples. Yes I agree safety is the bottom line and there will never be an end to the discussions of 350 verses 250


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