JIMNLIN
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jdscala wrote:Thanks again for all the replies, you have all been lot`s of help. Kaydeejay, thanks for looking into it for me. You have pointed me in the right direction and I will replace it. I just want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row when I sell this thing.
I saw this from another web site. It from Canada, BC but the thread says it covers all of Canada.
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How big can my pick-up camper or RV trailer be on my ½, ¾, or 1 tonne pickup be? Do I need brakes? Do I need a special driver’s license?
The camper, when loaded on to the pickup or when you tow a trailer behind the pickup, can not exceed the manufacturer “Gross Vehicle Weight Rating” (GVWR) or the “Gross Axle Weight Rating” (GAWR). The ratings can be found on the driver’s side door post.
I would think your province MVO or RCMP or who ever enforces your weights might be interested in why the numbers are missing or unreadible.
In my state for example its a misdemeanor to:
. It shall be unlawful for any person to:
A " Knowingly and intentionally destroy, remove, cover, alter or deface, or cause to be destroyed, covered, removed, altered or defaced the trim tag plate of a motor vehicle."
C "In addition to any other civil remedy available, a person d efrauded as a result of a violation of this act may bring a civil action against any person who knowingly violated this act regardless of whether that person has been convicted of a violation of this act. A person defrauded as a result of a violation of this act may recover treble their actual compensatory damages. In any action brought pursuant to this subsection, the court may award reasonable costs, including costs of expert witnesses, and attorney fees to the prevailing party."
The commercial side here in the states use the door tag more than non commercial operators such as RV's.
Stop by a well established truck dealer and see what their experience has been with your particular problem. Also your provinces DMV should have more input.
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Thud
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Here's a place that will make a tag identical to the original for $80.
http://www.ecsautomotive.com/
Need to supply a photo of the VIN, vehicle build date, tire and wheel size and GVWR.
According to my dealer, GM does not offer replacement stickers so aftermarket is the only way.
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redsb3
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Gunpilot77 wrote:kaydeejay wrote:mowermech wrote:I have never seen the labels on the door, IIRC, it seems they are always on the door jamb.
Would you please quote the Federal Statute or regulation that makes this sticker mandatory, and details the fine for destroying or not having it?
Thank you. This quote is from the regulations
OK, that covers the manufacture. Now how about something that says it has to be installed and/or legible after the vehicle is bought and the "$10,000" fine for not having one.
You'll never find it Gunpilot. It's like the tag on a mattress, the mfg needs to put it there so the consumer knows who made it an with what materials. After you buy it, its a worthless tag. Don't you think that there would be a warning against removal if that was the case. As you pointed out, the regulations specify that the mfg needs to put one there, period.
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I am guessing that some of you guys wear helmets while riding your exercise bikes.......
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jaycocamprs
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Thud wrote:Here's a place that will make a tag identical to the original for $80.
http://www.ecsautomotive.com/
Need to supply a photo of the VIN, vehicle build date, tire and wheel size and GVWR.
According to my dealer, GM does not offer replacement stickers so aftermarket is the only way.
If I have a sticker to take a photo of, I don't need a sticker. I don't have the sticker, so I can't send them a photo of it. They know what they look like, and I can get the VIN in several other places, so why the photo?
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jdscala
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bendmore wrote:I am guessing that some of you guys wear helmets while riding your exercise bikes.......
 Okay?...Now where did that come from?...I was only wondering if I could encounter any issues that I may have when I sell my vehicle (ie: it not passing an inspection). I was also wondering about the legality of not having one and I have received some helpful information. If me replacing this label means that "I ride an exercise bike with a helmet" than so be it. It's better to be safe than to deal with a whole bunch of frustrations later on.
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jaycocamprs wrote:If I have a sticker to take a photo of, I don't need a sticker. I don't have the sticker, so I can't send them a photo of it. They know what they look like, and I can get the VIN in several other places, so why the photo?
They don't need a photo of your sticker, only of your VIN (windshield VIN will suffice) I presume to show ownership and to make sure you are not requesting a sticker for a truck you do not own. The sticker they make will be just like the original and the VIN will be imprinted on it so they want it to be right.
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BenK
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jdscala wrote:bendmore wrote:I am guessing that some of you guys wear helmets while riding your exercise bikes.......
Okay?...Now where did that come from?...I was only wondering if I could encounter any issues that I may have when I sell my vehicle (ie: it not passing an inspection). I was also wondering about the legality of not having one and I have received some helpful information. If me replacing this label means that "I ride an exercise bike with a helmet" than so be it. It's better to be safe than to deal with a whole bunch of frustrations later on.
Pollyannaish thinking where it only happens to the other guy, never to oneself.
Guess they have lived such a wonderful life, that they just can not
ever imagine something 'difficult' happening. Or that they have NEVER
had the privilege of dealing with a governmental agency concerning
documentation of any kind...especially if the documentation isn't
exactly right.
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Gunpilot77
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redsb3 wrote:
You'll never find it Gunpilot. It's like the tag on a mattress, the mfg needs to put it there so the consumer knows who made it an with what materials. After you buy it, its a worthless tag. Don't you think that there would be a warning against removal if that was the case. As you pointed out, the regulations specify that the mfg needs to put one there, period.
I know that, you know that, and more than likely kaydeejay knows that.
BTW, the statute that JIMNLIN posted is obviously aimed at fraudulent changes, not a law that requires a tag. The first three words of the very first paragraph says it all. "Knowingly and intentionally"
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kaydeejay
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Gunpilot77 wrote:redsb3 wrote:
You'll never find it Gunpilot. It's like the tag on a mattress, the mfg needs to put it there so the consumer knows who made it an with what materials. After you buy it, its a worthless tag. Don't you think that there would be a warning against removal if that was the case. As you pointed out, the regulations specify that the mfg needs to put one there, period.
I know that, you know that, and more than likely kaydeejay knows that.
BTW, the statute that JIMNLIN posted is obviously aimed at fraudulent changes, not a law that requires a tag. The first three words of the very first paragraph says it all. "Knowingly and intentionally" So why is the reg worded "The label shall be riveted or permanently affixed in such a manner that it cannot be removed without destroying or defacing it." if it wasn't meant to be permanent?
And no, I haven't come up with the reg defining penalties but I do know there is one.
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