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EdNdonna

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Posted: 11/19/09 07:46pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

it's still doing it


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acker1

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Posted: 11/19/09 08:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I see the heading for the 'tips' column but no tips.
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Posted: 11/19/09 10:00pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

From end of the "Tips" column
"We hope you find these tips and the products and services they reference useful. RV.net appreciates your understanding that these forums are able to remain free of charge thanks to your patronage of the brands within the RV.net family of websites."

Also see Announcement:A message from Mike Schneider, CEO, Affinity

Im not sure about the formatting-but whatever is required to keep this site up. Hopefully the bugs are worked out ....soon


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pulsar wrote:


I'm not sure you are correct. Have you read the statement at the bottom of the tips?

Tom


Yes I read it; the 'Tips' as such, have nothing to do with the forum being free. They can be placed horizontally across the page at the top or bottom. A reference link to Affinity Group websites can be put anywhere.

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pulsar wrote:


I'm not sure you are correct. Have you read the statement at the bottom of the tips?

Tom


Yes I read it; the 'Tips' as such, have nothing to do with the forum being free. They can be placed horizontally across the page at the top or bottom. A reference link to Affinity Group websites can be put anywhere.


You left out the context of my post. Your comments here are quite different from the one I responded to.

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pulsar wrote:

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pulsar wrote:


I'm not sure you are correct. Have you read the statement at the bottom of the tips?

Tom


Yes I read it; the 'Tips' as such, have nothing to do with the forum being free. They can be placed horizontally across the page at the top or bottom. A reference link to Affinity Group websites can be put anywhere.


You left out the context of my post. Your comments here are quite different from the one I responded to.

Tom

Sorry Tom, I wasn't intentionally trying to change the context; just shortening the posts.

I understand that the forum is free and what the intent of the references to services are within the tips. It's just that it was so poorly done with what seems as little thought to many of us users that I find aggravating and frustrating.

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Posted: 11/23/09 09:06am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hey, folks.... let's understand how this works.

The forum is NOT FREE.

There are expenses, and someone has chosen to pay them directly, without charging the users of the forum via fees and membership dollars.

The recent addition of "tips" and related gentle reminders that Affinity et al can offer services and products is a reminder that someone is paying, and in response they are putting themselves in the "public eye" over there on the right column.

* This post was edited 11/23/09 09:15am by an administrator/moderator *


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Posted: 11/23/09 10:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Have seen this 'spaghetti creep' all to often in my product teams

Software gets messy when they lose sight of their product...mainly
specifications re-written in a vacuum or over lapping and don't know
enough about their product to know (overly focused on whatever they
are doing) that they are scrwing up their product.

What I mean is that with all of the 'new' advertisements that Afinity
Group is adding. They have an ever higher risk of messing up their
main product.

Am seeing this happen and the 'game' of cat'n mouse between the dials
and knobs being turned up to kill these onerous ads, 'they' stand the
chance of really messing up their main product....plus they don't know
that it isn't a game, but potentially killing off a significant portion
of their customer base.

The latest 'button' issue clearly indicates that to me...

Suggest the moderators suggest to the admin's and engineers to make
sure they have a backed up copy of their source and a good revision
control process so that they can 'go back'...aka...restore in MS speak...

Another suggestion is that to me, it clearly shows a lack of QC/QA
and ask them if they actually have a 'regression' test cycle and
signoff at CCB based on that...

(edit).... yes, freebie, but the question all should ask is at what cost

Personally have a low threshold for the amounts of 'my' time/resources
am willing to give them for this freebie, but I'm from the computing
industry, so have been jaded knowing a bit too much on how these
types think and behave...so I do have more utilities that block/kill
these than most seem to have

Freebie to me and know that they have to make money. Think of how they
make their money. Not just from these ads, but all of the portals
that everyone comes in through. Each one of those portals sells things
What does Good Sam sell? Woodalls? Camping World? etc, etc.

This forum used to NOT have products for sale. As it was one of the
'products' that draws sales in their 'other' forsale products.

Guess too many here are similarly taken easily by things like cell
phone contracts, cable contracts, health & gym contracts, record of
the month contracts, etc, etc...

To me, ties in with the general acceptance of things made poorly from
China, India, and outsourcing, as it is the 'Cheapest at any cost'
mentality.

* This post was edited 11/23/09 10:21am by BenK *


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1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner...
1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad...
1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner...
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Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)...
Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's...
51 cylinders in household, what's yours?...

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