Don36G

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The other thing to consider is what if your tow bar or connection has a problem and your car comes loose from your MH? I have read many posts of tow bar failures or when after stopping finding pins missing. I could not live with myself if I killed someone else knowing the possibility of the car coming loose and not taking any precautions to stop it.
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Sully2

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2Sooners wrote: We are getting our Class A and toad outfitted to pull 4 down. We will be pulling a 2010 Chevy Equinox weighing approximately 3800 lbs.
Our installing dealer advises against an auxiliary braking system since they know of some instances (gave me names) where the brake locked up and it did major damage. Their argument is that unless we are going into Canada, for instance, the MH can handle 3800 lbs.
Even though I like my dealer, I would like to hear from some of you about this. Have you had that happen to you or do you know of someone it has happened to? Do I really need to go through the expense or installing a braking system? If so, what do you recommend and about what should I expect to pay?
I notice there is another question concerning brakes that was just posted, but it does not really answer the question I have asked here.
Thanks for your help. You are a great resource of knowledge to me.
My rig weighs 30,000 and my Jeep weighs 3800 lbs and I DO NOT use any supplemental braking and FOR MY SETUP I dont need it....BUT...if my toad were heavier or my coach lighter I would...and the only one Id buy is the M&G setup.
With your setup ( weights) and short wheelbase...if you are at about a 15 degree or more angle to the toad and have to slam on the brakes...that toad is going to drive you sideways....and you wont be stopping very quickly.
I understand what your dealer is saying and I also WOULD NOT buy a braking setup that uses the swinging weights inside the box...for more reasons than 1..but too many to go into here anyway.
It wont be cheap..but you need more brakes
2000 Country Coach Allure; Cummins ISC 330 HP; 71/2 - 8 MPG regardless
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Sully2

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trop-a-cal wrote: 29 US states have it and a breakaway cable as required. Then there is the insurance companies that won't pay claims if you are not in compliance with state laws. The brake will stop you in 20% shorter distance which is about 80 feet at highway speeds, a life or death distance.
List those insurance companys ( a lot more internet hooie!!)
20% shorter equals 80 feet...so that means 100% equals 400 feet... Personally..I HAVE NEVER needed 400 feet to stop for ANY reason with my own coach when towing...let alone some "emergency..all hands on deck" sort of stopping!! ( someone has been reading the ads too much!)
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Sully2

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BigSkyBob wrote: I have the M&G Brake setup and I think it's a shade more than awesome. No electronics to go bad. No guessing about how much damage it's doing to your brakes when the exhaust brake is activated. Completely foolproof and fail safe. I can hook mine up in 5 seconds and I don't have to get down on my knees or fight setting it up in the rain or cold. I installed my brake on my pickup an about 30 minutes.
And you bought the ONLY one Id have...should I decide to buy one.
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ADAD437

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Don36G wrote: The other thing to consider is what if your tow bar or connection has a problem and your car comes loose from your MH? I have read many posts of tow bar failures or when after stopping finding pins missing. I could not live with myself if I killed someone else knowing the possibility of the car coming loose and not taking any precautions to stop it.
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topflite51

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I have a ReadyBrake system, very little if anything can go wrong with it.
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restorodder

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READY BRAKE the only way to go. Simple, fool proof, cheap. Once installed (simple job),hook up is as simple as snapping on a dog leash,done.
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Steve and Bev

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Chalk me up in agreement with most here that you NEED toad brakes. Also chalk me up as a disciple of the M&G air system. Before I used a Brake-Buddy type system. My knees (but mostly my temperament) got too bad to fool with them any more. Plus I share Sully's uneasiness about the activation mechanisms. The M&G is, in my opinion, pretty much bullet-proof.
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Mr.Mark

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2Sooners, we have the M & G braking system as you can see in my signature. It's probably not the cheapest system to get but boy is it convenient. As you may know, the M & G system connects to the air brakes on the coach. As I apply pressure to the service brakes, the Honda's brakes are applied at the same pressure so it never pushes me in a panic stop.
I had a guy run a red light as I was pulling into an intersection. If I had not stopped on a dime, he would have hit my driver's side front end. I made good use of the air horns that morning! In that situation since I was going rather slow, the Honda was not an issue on stopping but every millimeter counts!
The company that installed the system on the Honda charged about $2,000 which included the Blue-Ox tow bar, tow chains, air hose, safety cord, etc. I feel comfortable having the extra stopping power if ever needed.
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mscamping

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Air Force One by SMI is another good brake and right up there with M & G..
Mike..
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