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HappyTrails2U2

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Posted: 12/23/09 12:31am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I'd like to see the designer of one of these dollies tow a large trailer between Jackson, MS and Meridian, MS on I-20 at 55 mph with one and report back on it. If he lives to tell the tale with an intact rig I'd be inclined to buy one.


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Posted: 12/23/09 07:21am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

this picture was from 1955, that trailer was pulled to this location with a 1955 hudson hornet with the use of that front wheel. They towed that trailer at least 500+ miles on that trip




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northshore wrote:

this picture was from 1955, that trailer was pulled to this location with a 1955 hudson hornet with the use of that front wheel. They towed that trailer at least 500+ miles on that trip




Northshore, your link doesn't appear unless I select to reply. Then I see it!


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no it didnt have it but it still would happen someone else would try it but it would be with something like a cobalt or a ford escape


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hmmm im not sure what to do about it..... maybe a mod could help or i could try re posting it

It doesn't look like a valid picture link as written... I tried to link to it by cutting and pasting and there was nothing in my browser

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Hey jyh818 & webturtle, thanks for the heads up on the stinger. You must be a mind reader. That thing is the answer to my dreams. Going to love it. Thanks again.

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needtono wrote:

Hey jyh818 & webturtle, thanks for the heads up on the stinger. You must be a mind reader. That thing is the answer to my dreams. Going to love it. Thanks again.


Glad to be of any help! Curious, what's your setup?

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Highway 4x4 wrote:

I am not a trucker but I think the platform that is towed behind a big rig that has a 5th wheel type hitch on it called a jeep, not the 4x4 kind. So how about something like that being towed with a Ranger with a diesel in it towing a 5th wheel, about a 30 footer. The Ranger would have plenty of power and the 5th would have brakes along with the "jeep". Do you see any problem with that?


For a really heavy 5th wheel, you would need something like this powered 5vr dolly:


I hope the pic shows up and Sean, from ProPride doesn't mind me linking it.

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A bit of trivia:
In reference to the video, this actually happened to me twice; inadvertently going backwards down a hill.

The first time was on a train and was very mild. We had a heavy coal load and I had three locomotives on the head end and a manned pusher on the rear. I went through a dip (scenic Medora) between two long grades and my head end had started up the uphill part. About that time, the lead locomotive quit and a quick assessment was that we could still possibly make the hill, but it would be slow and a close call.

Then, as per Murphys' Law, the pusher locomotive comletely lost its load as it came through the bottom and switched from dynamic braking to traction power. Now we had two left. It looked glum and sure enough we only went about another 1/4 mile and stalled. So I set 10 pounds of air. Prior to this time, I thought 10 pounds would stop a loaded train anywhere. But I hadn't had occasion to stop this train in the first 50 miles and had no idea how bad these brakes were.

As we discussed "doubling the hill" (splitting the train, half at a time), the train began to roll back. The pushers frantically called about the same time I noticed the slow creep, and we set deeper brakes and stopped just fine. We eventually got a push from another train behind us and got a good locomotive from an oncoming empty train.

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The second time I went backwards, I was towing a loaded car trailer and had about a half mile left to go when I went through a sharp graveled dip on the way to the pasture. Because the dip was so sharp and rough, I slowed way down.

Unfortunately it was winter, and although the dip looked dry, it was an illusion where dust had blown over glare ice on the upside.

I had four wheel drive but it was useless. I almost made it to the top when it lost all traction and began a slow descent backwards. The speed kept picking up as I alternately braked trying to slow it and released brakes in order to have some semblance of steering. I think I maybe got up to 10 mph and was headed to the ditch when I finally hit bottom and was able to stop.

Heart-rending. God, was I glad I had recent experience in backing up a trailer. Makes my palms sweaty to type this after ten years.

Wes


HappyTrails2U2 wrote:

I'd like to see the designer of one of these dollies tow a large trailer between Jackson, MS and Meridian, MS on I-20 at 55 mph with one and report back on it. If he lives to tell the tale with an intact rig I'd be inclined to buy one.


I assume you mean the TT dollies, not the commercial truck dollies already doing this feat daily. But you have a point.

I have touted how great these truck dollies can be. Now I will mention an experience where they didn't work out well. Years ago, while traveling on a two lane road, in very windy conditions, my fellow co-workers and I came upon a Consolidated Freightways rig that had just gone in the ditch. I believe it was just doubles, not triples, and the driver related that the double suddenly started to sway.

Before he could do a thing, the trailers tipped and he and the tractor took a long bouncy 1/4 mile ride to the bottom of a grassy hill, but remained upright. Mildly hurt, the driver also stated that he felt it likely occurred because the trailers were empty which make them considerably more susceptable to side-winds. I will concur, having once been specifically licensed for doubles/triples. This was his first accident of any kind in the 15 years he had worked for CF.

I must also add that I have very little experience actually driving a tractor/trailer truck, but I did religiously study the application to have this endorsement (and all others) added to my license.

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HappyTrails2U2 wrote:

I'd like to see the designer of one of these dollies tow a large trailer between Jackson, MS and Meridian, MS on I-20 at 55 mph with one and report back on it. If he lives to tell the tale with an intact rig I'd be inclined to buy one.


HappyTrails2U2, never been on that stretch of road but sounds like it might be pretty rough, winding or something? Don't know, however it seems to me it would be prudent to drive at a rate of speed that conditions would dictate! Let me ask you, would you tow your TT down that same road @ 55 mph? Just curious.

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webturtle wrote:

HappyTrails2U2 wrote:

I'd like to see the designer of one of these dollies tow a large trailer between Jackson, MS and Meridian, MS on I-20 at 55 mph with one and report back on it. If he lives to tell the tale with an intact rig I'd be inclined to buy one.


HappyTrails2U2, never been on that stretch of road but sounds like it might be pretty rough, winding or something? Don't know, however it seems to me it would be prudent to drive at a rate of speed that conditions would dictate! Let me ask you, would you tow your TT down that same road @ 55 mph? Just curious.


The reason I mention this section of road is not because it's rough pavement or curvy but rather it has large swells in the roads in some areas from something that runs under the ground across a large area of Mississippi. It's called Yazoo Clay. That stuff swells up under roads and building foundations and causes all kinds of problems in that part of the world.

Yes I'll drive across most of that Interstate at over 55 mph in a car or truck but there is some sections if I were pulling a trailer I'd slow down to 45 or less. The first time I drove across there I was in a pick-up truck with some worn shocks and I would have hit my head on the roof of the truck had I not been wearing a seat belt when I hit those woop-de-doos!

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