MAU MAU
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With our everyday vehicles, it is relatively easy to determine dealer cost through Edmund's and other reliable sources. With RV's, it seems like it is mostly 'smoke and mirrors', and is most likely kept that way by the industry.
I am absolutely not questioning their right to make a profit, but am just curious as I try to learn more about the RV world.
Does anyone truly know how much Roadtrek or Pleasureway make in profit per unit, and what a dealer makes after the unit lands on their lot?
How much room for negotiation is there on last years models as well as current years Class B's which just rolled off the truck?
Thanks in advance.............Rob
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juliev
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RV's have about a 30% mark up.
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My Roadtrek
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One thing to remember is RV dealers, are not like car dealers, they are independent businesses, and can set what ever price they want. The factories have no control over their price just as they have no control over a dealer who refuses to do warranty work on a unit not purchased from them.
i would think what the manufactures make from their retailers varies depending on model year, time of year, number purchased, etc, that I would not even try to put a % on it.
The way to get the best price is just do research. You should be able to get a good idea what a fair price is, then be prepared to do a lot of haggling. You should always be able to get a better deal at certain times, like in the winter, and I know Roadtrek has end of year rebates.
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RSchleder
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All I can give you is our recent experience with on class B Winnebago ERA and past experiences on purchasing high dollar diesel pushers. First of all, our experience on high dollar diesel pushers is a discount of 25-30% off list price depending on time of year, economy, end of year or not, etc. We recently purchased our new 2012 ERA which listed for $104k for $80. This was pretty close to the % discount we were also offered by Airstream and Roadtrek, only difference was their van's listed for about $20k more than the ERA. Hope this information helps you with your future purchase, good luck. Ron
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mumkin
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Don't mean to say anything against the ERA or Winnebago, but with their high volume and middle-range quality, a 25+% discount is common. You will not find that kind of discount for the high-quality, relatively rare units built by the B manufacturers. Discounts of 15% are more common.
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RSchleder
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I guess I didn't realize that a Roadtrek, from the largest producer of class B's and at a price of $120K, was a rare unit. For general information, the ERA is built in a unique plant in Charles city, Ia, not the Main plant in Forest city, Ia. Also they are manufacturing a couple of units a day, a far cry from the Roadteck plant output I'm sure. Kinda hard to call that level of unit output a high production facility as you suggest.
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MAU MAU
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Hey Ron, don't listen to the drones in the peanut gallery.
I saw the pictures of your new toy and it looks fantastic!
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bobojay5
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I can also agree with Ron on this. As far as the ERA quality? The ERA now uses the same cabinetry, hardware etc. as Winnebago's class C units.
I can say that the cabinetry in our current (Winnebago) Itasca Navion meets or exceeds the quality of the cabinetry in the Pleasureway Lexor we had.
As far as the plumbing, water tanks etc. The Winnebago product excels there, no question about that.
Otherwise, the rest of the unit's equiptment, is generic, just like used in every other comparably priced brand.
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mumkin
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Interesting. I am a reader for years on the View/Navion Yahoo board - a very large group of basically happy Winnebago owners of these units, and there has been a constant refrain over there for the last couple years of the declining quality of the cabinetry, workmanship, and obvious cutting of corners to keep the prices down by Winnebago. It was obvious enough to see the difference even on the Winnebago website.
So, if the Era matches the Winnebago C's...
Just saying what a group that I consider the authorities on Sprinter based C's has been saying. And not one member has come on there to dispute these comments. They still love their units, but...
Meanwhile many here on this board are complaining about the higher prices caused by the manufacturers who keep making B's fancier and fancier.
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RSchleder
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Mumkin- I owned an Allegro bus for 7 years and many would say it's the best built, highest quality ( non bus) motorhome built. I've also owned a C5 corvette for 7 years, certainly one of the best sports cars in the world for the money. My point here is---go to any forum and you will be inundated with people having real or imagined issues/problems. It's those folks that do a high percentage of the posting and thread initiating. That's the nature of forums and there's nothing wrong with that as I experienced it for years on the Tiffin and the Corvette forums. Oh yeah, almost forgot, I'm seeing the exact same thing on the Mini Cooper now that I own one and visit those forum also.
Most folks take these forums with a "grain of salt" and understand the nature of them. I sincerely say that if I took all the information I read as something that was "normal" to all the units produced by a particular manufacturer I'd be riding a bicycle and sleeping under the stars, I'd say sleeping in a tent, however, all the tent forums complain about them leaking so why would I do that?
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