valhalla360 wrote: I guess I'm one of the ones who can't controll thier dog because we use a leash.
We had a close call when a german shepard came up and bent down to sniff Diego before I could pick him up. Diego grabbed an ear and went for a ride. Luckily the shepard didn't lose it but I was ticked at the other owner who "thought" they had a well trained dog.
You are very lucky the shepard didnt didnt respond in like kind. You probably should train your dog to be more tolerant.
Going in and fibbing about his hitch didn't do him any good either. What else will he lie about to get his way.
The dog sounds pretty well behaved and all, The owner on the other hand comes off as disrespectful, immature and aggressive.
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JiminDenver...NOt sure I understand these two comments. When did I go in to any office and "fib" about my hitch? And when did I come off disrespectful, immature and aggressive. Anyone who would say I have been ANYTHING but respectful and courteous to ALL the staff at this park AT ALL TIMES..would be telling a complete lie. In fact, even in the face of the site mgr screaming at me in an ambush fashion...we have never had but 2 conversations...one signing in, and one the day I arrived. So your secomd comment is empty.
UPDATE: I spoke with the manager today. I explained to her that I wanted to allow the weekend to pass to allow for her to calm down. She was extremely pleasant, as she had always been before the two times she got loud (and agan...I not once ever got loud). Anyway I explained to her that I also had the weekend to reflect, and that it occured to me that I was taking it the wrong way, and that I was not taking the blame for breaking a rule, but was instead putting it off on my dog being the issue. I apologized to her for not taking her warning as a true warning, and that I meant no disrespect. I also assure her that I would be glad to call her boss and confirm that she did, in fact, warn me about having the dog on a lead. That is when some things became a little more clear. She said there was no need to call, as the damage had already been done. She then told me about some other issues unrelated to me or my situation that has a role in the park dynamic, but I prefer not to go in to details on an open forum on that stuff.
Nonetheless, I assured her that if they agreed that I could stay I would be the model tenant. We'll see how that goes.
I want to thank all the RV.netters who gave advice...friendly to my side or not. As it turns out I do see that I was looking at the issue as an attack on my dog instead of the manager pointing out that I broke a rule of the park. As a serious and totally devoted dog owner, of a truly disciplined dog who is only on a lead because of the fact too much ould be said about him being off-leash. However a rule is a rule, and I broke it and got warmed, and broke it again. That was on me, not the owner, the manager or my dog.
I appreciate the advice and for assisting me in getting my head back on correctly!
You are right. I was harsh. I should have posted it was not good for your situation to have had a excuse as to why you didn't need to comply with the order to vacate just as you had a excuse as to why you didn't need to follow the rules. I would wonder what excuse you would come up with the next time you didn't feel like complying.
I think the managers response to your excuse as to why you couldn't leave on time showed that they thought you were fibbing about the hitch and that is what matters to them and no, it was not good for your case.
What are excuses really, they are little white lies we tell ourselves to make it ok to get away with anything. The immaturity is in the inability to accept and abide by boundaries as well as accepting that you are where you are as result of your actions.
Respect is more than being polite and saying yes sir and no ma'am. In this case you didn't respect the owners right to set rules and expect them to be followed.
You were aggressive in your defense as well as the post about banning all the leashes when people here didn't see things your way. Which had you made it clear that you were warned at check in, then broke the rule, warned again and then broke the rule again, you may have found the responses harsher even still.
While I'm at it. after the manager bent the rules to accept your larger dog and gave you a second chance once you broke the rule, you went ahead and broke it again, well that's seen as ungrateful.
Listen I actually understand where you are coming from. I have three dogs that I like to put in a screen tent while we are outside. Unfortunately that is seen as unleashed and when someone comes by they bark their heads off. Rather than come up with cheesy excuses we boondock by ourselves. The dogs have nothing to barks at and everyone's happy.
Out there we don't have a bunch of rules to follow but a big one is common sense. Leave your dog on a lead unattended and you may look out to find the lead and no dog. The bear of course is very grateful that you tied down their meal so that it couldn't get away. Easy meals are the best.
Good luck in your situation.
JinD
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noe-place wrote: Unattended means the animal was out of your sight no matter how close you say you were. If he was outside, you should have been close and outside with him. I do believe they should pro rate a refund but they legally don't have to. Especially since you were warned about the "hawkish" attitude of the owner. A word to the wise as they say... Our dog never goes outside our rv unless one of us is with him every second.
Not according the laws of Jackson County, GA. A dog can even be considered restrained by voice commands. In no way does strapping my dog outside on a professional LEAD that is MADE TO STRAP YOUR DOG OUTSIDE violate any laws regarding owner "attendence".
Again...mine is not a typical trailer park lapper who yaps all day. If you cannot let your dog outside off a leash without it running away, getting in the neighbors things, biting someone or just just generally staying put...YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE A DOG. Your 7 pound dope on a rope that yaps and craps all day is more of a nuisance than most dogs I see with contractors and other RVs.
Pls people...stop acting like a man with a well-trained dog who is not tethered with a MORON CORD every time the dog takes a step are bad people. MAYBE those of us who take time to train our dogs are the good ones, and the ones with yapper/crappers are the bad ones!
Sir, you paid to stay on the renters' property and you signed on to obey the posted rules. They even explained them verbally at check-in according to your statement and forewarned you of the owner's intent to be forceful over violations. It's like the sign says on my farm land: "NO HUNTING" means no hunting, not sneak in shoot a deer and leave. Accept the rules or move on.
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UPDATE: I spoke with the manager today. I explained to her that I wanted to allow the z to pass to allow for her to calm down. She was extremely pleasant, as she had always been before the two times she got loud (and agan...I not once ever got loud). Anyway I explained to her that I also had the weekend to reflect, and that it occured to me that I was taking it the wrong way, and that I was not taking the blame for breaking a rule, but was instead putting it off on my dog being the issue. I apologized to her for not taking her warning as a true warning, and that I meant no disrespect. I also assure her that I would be glad to call her boss and confirm that she did, in fact, warn me about having the dog on a lead. That is when some things became a little more clear. She said there was no need to call, as the damage had already been done. She then told me about some other issues unrelated to me or my situation that has a role in the park dynamic, but I prefer not to go in to details on an open forum...
Class act! Good on you Brother! It sounds to me like you are getting on the right track for having a mutually beneficial business relationship with this manager.
valhalla360 wrote: I guess I'm one of the ones who can't controll thier dog because we use a leash.
We had a close call when a german shepard came up and bent down to sniff Diego before I could pick him up. Diego grabbed an ear and went for a ride. Luckily the shepard didn't lose it but I was ticked at the other owner who "thought" they had a well trained dog.
You are very lucky the shepard didnt didnt respond in like kind. You probably should train your dog to be more tolerant.
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We've tried. We have a friend with 3 rotwielers that we visit a couple times a month and they've tried to help by working with us. It usually winds up with the 3 big dogs in the corner while Diego rules the room. It's an ongoing process and he's better then when we got him from the pound but we aren't going to get a 2nd dog just so diego can have more experience with large dogs. If other owners would attend to thier dogs as required in public places, it wouldn't be a problem.
When we are out walking, if we move him to the other side of us, he will ignore other dogs. The problem is when an unleashed dog comes bounding up and goes around me, I can't control the supposedly "well trained" dog and diego feels threatened.
On the one hand, you are correct. We are lucky the shepard didn't react. On the other, we recognize the situation and take reasonable precautions. The fault would lie fully with the other owner who failed to control thier dog.
Tammy Mike & the Bilge Rat (AKA: Diego)
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1997 Sunnybrook 27' 5er
1995 Gemini Sail Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and 5er
I bet that when you signed up to stay there that there was something you signed or rules given/stated/posted that if you broke the said rules that you could be evicted without a refund.
Finally had a long talk with the owners today. I explained my actions, that I was to blame, apologized, advised that the manager did her job and did it well, and that if allowed to stay I would adhere to all rules. Owner was very pleasant, and frankly did not seem to have even been aware of the issue. Regardless, she appreciated my calling to apologize and explain things. She said I was of course allowed to stay, and only asked that I not leave my best friend unattended. I assured her that while we had a disagreement on the definition of "unattended", I recognized the park rule was what it was, and as a guest of the park I would not break it again.
Like all other park owners I have met they seemed to just want to keep a good, clean, safe park.
For what it is worth, this is one of the best kept places I have ever seen.
Good for you. I really have to commend you on your attitude and approach to the situation. Had you got upset and blamed the manager or owner, you'd be out on your "you know what"!!!
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I am happy that you got this resolved amiably, because legally you would not have had much standing if your stay was under "innkeeper" rules, where management usually does not really need a reason to evict you. Maybe you've seen the sign "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" in a store or restaurant? That pretty much describes your legal standing in the innkeeper situation.
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