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Flashman

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Posted: 02/09/12 03:00pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

4x4ord wrote:

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The Eco boost will tow the mtns as well as a turbo diesel


So your saying that you think a Eco Boost will pull a heavy load load up the mountains just as well as a 6.7 Cummins, Powerstroke or a 6.6 D-Max????? I really think the Eco is a fantastic engine but for heavy towing I do not it performs as well as a large diesel nor do I think it was designed to.


It will depend what year truck your talking. The Eco boost starts making pretty good torque way down at 1700 rpm and keeps building horsepower all the way up to about 5000 rpm. If you're comparing an 07 or earlier Diesel to the new Eco Boost and wonder which truck will pull an 8500 lb trailer to the top of the mountain first - it's going to be the Eco Boost.


Wrong Fan Boy!

My 2007 Dodge has 650 lbs torgue. Kinda trumps the ego boost at 420.

Did you really believe all the Ford ads?

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4x4ord wrote:

garysol wrote:

blt2ski wrote:



The Eco boost will tow the mtns as well as a turbo diesel


So your saying that you think a Eco Boost will pull a heavy load load up the mountains just as well as a 6.7 Cummins, Powerstroke or a 6.6 D-Max????? I really think the Eco is a fantastic engine but for heavy towing I do not it performs as well as a large diesel nor do I think it was designed to.


It will depend what year truck your talking. The Eco boost starts making pretty good torque way down at 1700 rpm and keeps building horsepower all the way up to about 5000 rpm. If you're comparing an 07 or earlier Diesel to the new Eco Boost and wonder which truck will pull an 8500 lb trailer to the top of the mountain first - it's going to be the Eco Boost.



So your saying if you take a new Eco boost and hook it up toa 8500# trailer, and I hook my truck up to an 8500 trailer and we take off at the bottom of I 26, in TN about 11 miles from the NC border and drive almost 9 miles up the side of that mountain, 7 % grade most of the way, that the EGO BOOST is going to out pull my 1 ton Dually 6..7 Cummins...I say, BALDERDASH!!! The 1/2 ton Ford, turbo will be looking at my tailgate going up the side of that mountain, if he can keep that close.....where do we meet at and how much money you want to put on it.

It wouldn't have outran my 05 D/A dually...sorry, but it is what it is....might have done it with a pre- 2001 D/A...not sure about the 5.9 Cummins or the 7.3 Ford diesel, but when we left the starting line, the 1/2 ton would still be trying to move that 8500#....I'd be gone by the time he built up his TQ and HP to pull that little ole lite weight up the side of that mountain...with that insignificant amount of weight on the back of my truck, I could almost be like some in here who would say, "Don't even know it's back there", but I know better


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Flashman wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

garysol wrote:

blt2ski wrote:



The Eco boost will tow the mtns as well as a turbo diesel


So your saying that you think a Eco Boost will pull a heavy load load up the mountains just as well as a 6.7 Cummins, Powerstroke or a 6.6 D-Max????? I really think the Eco is a fantastic engine but for heavy towing I do not it performs as well as a large diesel nor do I think it was designed to.


It will depend what year truck your talking. The Eco boost starts making pretty good torque way down at 1700 rpm and keeps building horsepower all the way up to about 5000 rpm. If you're comparing an 07 or earlier Diesel to the new Eco Boost and wonder which truck will pull an 8500 lb trailer to the top of the mountain first - it's going to be the Eco Boost.


Wrong Fan Boy!

My 2007 Dodge has 650 lbs torgue. Kinda trumps the ego boost at 420.

Did you really believe all the Ford ads?


You obviously have no idea what yoi're talking about if you think you can determine who is going to get to the top of the mountain first by comparing max torque values. I can produce more torque than the 650 ft lbs that your dodge does just sitting on the end of a 4 foot pipe wrench but don't ask me to pull a trailer up a hill.


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4x4ord wrote:

Flashman wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

garysol wrote:

blt2ski wrote:



The Eco boost will tow the mtns as well as a turbo diesel


So your saying that you think a Eco Boost will pull a heavy load load up the mountains just as well as a 6.7 Cummins, Powerstroke or a 6.6 D-Max????? I really think the Eco is a fantastic engine but for heavy towing I do not it performs as well as a large diesel nor do I think it was designed to.


It will depend what year truck your talking. The Eco boost starts making pretty good torque way down at 1700 rpm and keeps building horsepower all the way up to about 5000 rpm. If you're comparing an 07 or earlier Diesel to the new Eco Boost and wonder which truck will pull an 8500 lb trailer to the top of the mountain first - it's going to be the Eco Boost.


Wrong Fan Boy!

My 2007 Dodge has 650 lbs torgue. Kinda trumps the ego boost at 420.

Did you really believe all the Ford ads?


You obviously have no idea what yoi're talking about if you think you can determine who is going to get to the top of the mountain first by comparing max torque values. I can produce more torque than the 650 ft lbs that your dodge does just sitting on the end of a 4 foot pipe wrench but don't ask me to pull a trailer up a hill.


OK - I'll bite - you are going to stand behind your Ego Boost with a 4 ft pipe?

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4x4ord wrote:

Flashman wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

garysol wrote:

blt2ski wrote:



The Eco boost will tow the mtns as well as a turbo diesel


So your saying that you think a Eco Boost will pull a heavy load load up the mountains just as well as a 6.7 Cummins, Powerstroke or a 6.6 D-Max????? I really think the Eco is a fantastic engine but for heavy towing I do not it performs as well as a large diesel nor do I think it was designed to.


It will depend what year truck your talking. The Eco boost starts making pretty good torque way down at 1700 rpm and keeps building horsepower all the way up to about 5000 rpm. If you're comparing an 07 or earlier Diesel to the new Eco Boost and wonder which truck will pull an 8500 lb trailer to the top of the mountain first - it's going to be the Eco Boost.


Wrong Fan Boy!

My 2007 Dodge has 650 lbs torgue. Kinda trumps the ego boost at 420.

Did you really believe all the Ford ads?


You obviously have no idea what yoi're talking about if you think you can determine who is going to get to the top of the mountain first by comparing max torque values. I can produce more torque than the 650 ft lbs that your dodge does just sitting on the end of a 4 foot pipe wrench but don't ask me to pull a trailer up a hill.



While your standing on the end of that 4' pipe, I'll be over half way up the side of that mountain

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NC Hauler wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

Flashman wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

garysol wrote:

blt2ski wrote:



The Eco boost will tow the mtns as well as a turbo diesel


So your saying that you think a Eco Boost will pull a heavy load load up the mountains just as well as a 6.7 Cummins, Powerstroke or a 6.6 D-Max????? I really think the Eco is a fantastic engine but for heavy towing I do not it performs as well as a large diesel nor do I think it was designed to.


It will depend what year truck your talking. The Eco boost starts making pretty good torque way down at 1700 rpm and keeps building horsepower all the way up to about 5000 rpm. If you're comparing an 07 or earlier Diesel to the new Eco Boost and wonder which truck will pull an 8500 lb trailer to the top of the mountain first - it's going to be the Eco Boost.


Wrong Fan Boy!

My 2007 Dodge has 650 lbs torgue. Kinda trumps the ego boost at 420.

Did you really believe all the Ford ads?


You obviously have no idea what yoi're talking about if you think you can determine who is going to get to the top of the mountain first by comparing max torque values. I can produce more torque than the 650 ft lbs that your dodge does just sitting on the end of a 4 foot pipe wrench but don't ask me to pull a trailer up a hill.



While your standing on the end of that 4' pipe, I'll be over half way up the side of that mountain


I think the fool is trying to say his 365 HP - at max RPM will win out - love to see him explode at red line 1/2 up the hill.

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Posted: 02/09/12 04:10pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Flashman wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

Flashman wrote:

4x4ord wrote:

garysol wrote:

blt2ski wrote:



The Eco boost will tow the mtns as well as a turbo diesel


So your saying that you think a Eco Boost will pull a heavy load load up the mountains just as well as a 6.7 Cummins, Powerstroke or a 6.6 D-Max????? I really think the Eco is a fantastic engine but for heavy towing I do not it performs as well as a large diesel nor do I think it was designed to.


It will depend what year truck your talking. The Eco boost starts making pretty good torque way down at 1700 rpm and keeps building horsepower all the way up to about 5000 rpm. If you're comparing an 07 or earlier Diesel to the new Eco Boost and wonder which truck will pull an 8500 lb trailer to the top of the mountain first - it's going to be the Eco Boost.


Wrong Fan Boy!

My 2007 Dodge has 650 lbs torgue. Kinda trumps the ego boost at 420.

Did you really believe all the Ford ads?


You obviously have no idea what yoi're talking about if you think you can determine who is going to get to the top of the mountain first by comparing max torque values. I can produce more torque than the 650 ft lbs that your dodge does just sitting on the end of a 4 foot pipe wrench but don't ask me to pull a trailer up a hill.



While your standing on the end of that 4' pipe, I'll be over half way up the side of that mountain


I think the fool is trying to say his 365 HP - at max RPM will win out - love to see him explode at red line 1/2 up the hill.



Key word is "explode"..

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aruba5er wrote:

I couldn't pull the mountains in AZ with my V10. Lots of luck with that.


I call hooey!!!!

My V10 handled the passes in the rockies with no problems at 2000+ meters! This was at one of the continental divides. No other trucks were able to keep up other than the diesels.

I joked with a F150 owner at the columbia ice fields that I was worried I lost him. He just looked at me smiled and said "wish I had one of those in my truck".

The one exception is if you expect the truck to do that at 1000 rpm. Mine was easily hitting 3500 to 4000 rpm if I put my foot down.


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Then there's the 8.1 496 2001 Chevy 2500 I had....believe it would have put the ECO-Boost to shame...HEY, now that 496 CID VOTEC REALLY was an EGO BOOST


.......but when it came to ECO.....well, now that was a whole different ball game with the 8.1...you REALLY paid to play

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Wow - you fellas are apt to be humbled a little when you have to pull over to let the little Eco Boost by. Here's the deal: horsepower is work per time. The horsepower rating tells you how fast the engine is capable of performing work. The transmission multiplies torque - horsepower can be converted to torque by running it through gears. My explanation of how sitting on a pipe wrench can create torque is to illustrate how torque cannot create horsepower.

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