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We are planning a trip that will hit the Grand Canyon, south and north, Vermilion Cliffs Monument, Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, Canyonlands National Park, Arches National Park, and Zion. We received our “custom” trip map from FMCA and have been looking it over.
The question is: are the routes in that area suggested capable of handling large vehicles (40 foot MH with a Ranger Toad) or just autos/trucks with trailers? These are the roads off the interstate they have listed are 89, 160, 191 and one not having an ID number going to Capitol Reef National Park.
Also, there is no listing for campgrounds just motels. The trip will be from June to Aug. so I’m guessing a full hookup site for a/c.

Help campgrounds and routes appreciated.


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I can't speak for those roads, as I don't have your map in front of me, but I do know that there are two ways into Zion: from the east and from the west, and I do know that the route in from the east will not accommodate that rig, you will have to approach Zion from the west.





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Contrary to the previous post, you can drive highway 9 out of the park, but I dont think you can tow another vehicle.
You will need someone to drive it separate through the tunnel

see www.zionnational-park.com/sb9.htm

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We did the same trip few years ago with our signature rig,all the roads were fine except HWY12 Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument,it is a very scenic interesting HWY so we left the trailer at a C.G at the North end and did half of the HWY with the ruck and some side trips ,we then did the same at the South end,no way you can enjoy the scenery pulling or even stopping.
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Your routes are OK. With 2 drivers use the east exit from Zion as there is a 40' single vehicle length limit in the tunnel.

* This post was edited 04/16/12 07:07pm by CA Traveler *


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To go through the tunnel at Zion's east side, a large rig must request an escort and pay the current fee for it. It is simply a time when other traffic is stopped, both directions, so the large rig can be driven in the center of the road, where the ceiling is much higher. The length limit may still be a factor. There is a route around the tunnel that is suitable for large rigs. From Hurricane, take Rte 59 (changes to 389 in AZ), then Alt. 89 N to Kanab. I drive a 40 ft DP plus toad, and I have driven all of Rte 89 in this area without issues. Highway 12 has a couple very steep, but short, grades. I have driven it without issues (other than distraction caused by the gorgeous scenery). In fact, the only paved roads in southern Utah I avoid are 14 out of Cedar City and 261 on Cedar Mesa (not all of it was paved).


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We've done this trip 5 times. I'd skip Zion & simply go from North Rim G.Canyon up rt. 89 to stay at Bryce canyon (Ruby's Inn RV park). Ruby's is a large Full hookup park and has everything u'll possibly need. Shopping, gas, resturants, even RV repair facility. If u must see Zion, its a nice Day trip in the TOAD. Bryce is on Rt.12 so U can head on up 12 north. U'll cross the east flank of Boulder Mtn. so will reach altitude of about 9000'. Very nice Forest CG at the top called Singletree. Spend the night in the high pine forest. Pick up Rt 24 at Torrey (Thousand Lakes RV park...no lake) than stay at Capital Reef RV park called Fruita. Very large, nicely spaced, shaded sites, 1st come 1st serve, altho no electric. Water only but has nice modern toilets. Do the capital gorge drive and walk to the wall of old names & dates. Than on to MOAB which has Arches & Canyonlands Nat'l pks. THIS should be the greatest stay of the trip. U can spend months just in this area and never see all. Check into TOAD trips to Gemini Bridges & certainly the Shaffer trail switch back road down the cliff face into the bottom of Canyonlands. just ask ranger for all info. Any fairly high clearance car or truck can do these 2 roads when DRY. MOAB is a beautiful little tourist town. Has a number of full hookup RV parks. I suggest River Bend just north of town or Arch View RV park which is a little farther out of town and a bit on the RUSTIC side but with the best views. The best CG is the Parks Dead Horse canyon. It has 50 Amp Electric. Water is trucked up to the park so it may be a good ider to fill Ur tanks in town a nd drive up. U'll Need Reservations for this park..VERY popular.

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We enjoyed the tunnel route much more than the southern route. One time we were the first stopped east bound. Several people thanked us as we all enjoyed the scenery where you normally can't stop. I would take this route over any other route anytime. We are now over the 40' limit unfortunately.

Google zion tunnel for the details but the basicis are: 40' limit, 50' combined, $15 for 2 crossings within 7 days. You stop, pay, and wait while they clear the tunnel. Then everyone in your direction goes with big rigs (RVs, tour busses, whatever) down the center. Look at the pics - the tunnel is quite high in the center - go for it as it's a hoot!!! No escort BTW, just go.

OP You posted 40' - don't know if you are 40+ but personally I'd go for it if you have 2 drivers and can disconnect the toad.

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tandkj wrote:

We are planning a trip that will hit the Grand Canyon, south and north, Vermilion Cliffs Monument, Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, Glen Canyon National Recreation Area, Canyonlands National Park, Arches National Park, and Zion. We received our “custom” trip map from FMCA and have been looking it over.
The question is: are the routes in that area suggested capable of handling large vehicles (40 foot MH with a Ranger Toad) or just autos/trucks with trailers? These are the roads off the interstate they have listed are 89, 160, 191 and one not having an ID number going to Capitol Reef National Park.
Also, there is no listing for campgrounds just motels. The trip will be from June to Aug. so I’m guessing a full hookup site for a/c.

Help campgrounds and routes appreciated.


We have a 40' motorhome and have been to the parks often. It's hard giving your routing not knowing where you're beginning but if you start at Grand Canyon South, stay IN the park at Trailer Village. Then head out the east entranct via Hwy 64. Then take 89 north and 89A to Jacob Lake 67 to the North Rim of Grand Canyon. Your best best is to get a reservation at DeMott - Kaibab national forest campground just outside the North Rim entrance. It doesn't have hookups but the North Rim is cool and the campground is in shade. It's very nice and convenient. Then to get to Zion take 389/59 through Colorado City and into Hurricane. It's a very good road for a large rig. You would fit in Watchman campground IN the park but get a reservation for that time period. Leaving Zion, if you don't want to do the tunnel with your towed vehicle disconnected, head west to I-15 then north to Hwy 20 and head east to 89 and on to Bryce. From Bryce, Hwy 12 is very doable to Capitol Reef. Leaving Capitol Reef, take Hwy 24 to I-70, then east to Hwy 191 to Moab. Hwy 191 is very good. Hope this helps. Also, check campgrounds in these areas on RV Park Reviews web site. It will be very helpful for you. You also mention Hwy 160 but I don't know where you would pick this up. It's an O.K. road but if you're on Hwy 191 I would just stay on it and pick up Hwy 163 taking you to Monument Valley and to Kayenta and Hwy 98 to Page for a circle trip. Have a great trip, although it will be hot except for the North Rim and Bryce. P.S. You really need to get out some good paper maps to begin your route and not rely on trip planners. Sometimes they put you on roads or routes that are not the best.


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Posted: 04/17/12 06:30am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

tandkj wrote:

... there is no listing for campgrounds just motels. The trip will be from June to Aug. so I’m guessing a full hookup site for a/c.

Help campgrounds and routes appreciated.


You may find this downloadable trip planner usefull. Also checkout this website for information about the many destinations in Southern Utah. This Map gives information about places to explore on UT-12 between Bryce and Capitol Reef that you would miss if you just drove through in the MH.

I also would recommend taking UT-24 from Capitol Reef toward Moab. Stop at Goblin Valley State Park. From Hanksville, take UT-95 to Natural Bridges National Monument and Blanding. From Blanding you can detour South or make day trips to Monument Valley, Valley of the Gods, and Hovenweep National Monument. From Blanding US-191 North will take you close to the Needles District of Canyonlands National Park on the way to Moab.

Even with three months you will have no shortage of places to see.

Hope you have a Great trip!!!

* This post was edited 04/17/12 06:45am by trailertraveler *


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