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cm11599ps

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Posted: 07/28/14 08:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We just got back from a wonderful week of camping and had one slight altercation with a neighbor. I'm curious to see what others might have to say.



This pic was taken from our site and as you might be able to tell, the campground road goes from left to right before it makes a 90 degree turn to the left. The girl on the bike is on the road and about to go past the picnic table, fire pit, tree and small shrubs before hitting the 90 degree right hand turn and come past our site. There is a vacant site on the inside part of the turn as you can see and that's who we had a problem with. I took the picture after they left.

It was a couple in their late 50's, early 60's with 2 small dogs. All week long they would walk their dogs either on the vacant sites next to them, using them as a doggy latrine or across the street where you can see the woods in my picture. We would walk our dogs in the wooded section behind the girl on the bike as instructed by the campground, much like the couple did when they didn't use vacant sites as a latrine.

For 3 or 4 days there was never a problem. Everyone went about their camping trips peacefully and enjoyably. My family had two campers there and luckily we had sites next to each other. Everything was going great!

One night at about 11pm I take one of our dogs to that grassy/woody section. I'm standing at about where that bike is but I'm actually behind the bike, on the grassy/woody area. I see the guy I mentioned above about 150' away from me down the road to the left behind some trees and bushes and I hear him saying things to his dog. The doggy area is about 150' long and about 10' deep as there is a chain link fence to prevent things from getting in and out of the park. I keep my distance and don't venture closer. We were basically at opposite ends of the 150' long doggy area. The dog I had at the time does his business as soon as I bring him to that area so I start and end the dog walk in under 2 minutes.

I go back to the camper and bring our second dog to the same area and I can still see the guy in the same area down the road and still talking to his dog. Again, we are at opposite ends of the doggy area. I'm minding my own business and staying just about as far away as possible in the area where we were supposed to bring dogs.

All of a sudden I hear a voice down the road from the guy walking his dog down the road. It was not a pleasant tone and it was not an angry tone but it was kind of an annoyed tone. It's after 11pm and he's yelling.

"Um, can you go walk your dog somewhere else? I'm trying to train a 3 month old puppy over here and your dogs keep distracting her."

My dogs weren't barking, they weren't growling, they weren't doing anything other than sniffing and peeing in the designated doggy area just about as far away from this guy as possible. We have two dogs and I walk them separately and it takes less than 5 minutes from the time I grab the first leash to the time I'm hanging up the second leash.

So I answer back, "I'm just trying to walk my dogs just like you are."

He comes back with, "I know, but can't you just walk your dogs over on your site or somewhere else because I have a 3 month old puppy I'm training. Can you show some courtesy!?" All the time in an annoyed tone and yelling at 11pm.

So I reply with, "Dude, I'm just trying to walk my dog just like you are in the designated area instructed by the campground. That's all I'm doing."

He then says something else about my manners and tells me to walk my dog somewhere else. I say "OK, I will" but I don't move.

At this point he picks up his dog and walks over to my face complaining about how I'm not listening and how I'm not being courteous. He tells me that I've been bringing my dogs over to his site all week to pee and poop. He was claiming that the other side of the road was his site too and I respond that no, I'm not bringing my dogs over to his site because HIS site is on the other side of the road with his camper, picnic table and fire pit and that I'm bringing my dog over to the designated doggy area as instructed by the campground as was everyone else in our loop. We always clean up after our dogs too so it's not like we left anything in the wooded area.

At this point he walks past me and he begins to walk right to my dad's site 30' away and says that he's going to bring both his dogs over to our site so they can relieve themselves by our picnic table. He even threatened to go get his BIGGER dog which was still only 20 lbs. :-)

I followed him that short distance and just as he got to my parents picnic table my brother heard the commotion and walked out of his camper at the next site. I call my brother's name and say, "Do you mind giving me a hand over here? This gentleman just threatened to bring both his dogs over to Dad's site and have them poop and pee all over.

My brother and him basically have the same conversation that I had with him, (keep in mind that he is currently on our site standing next to our picnic table), when a few seconds later my Dad comes out from his camper right there and asks what is going on. At this point the guy leaves and says something about how he is so happy he is packing up and leaving tomorrow and that it wasn't anything worth arguing about. We all went to bed after that and he was gone 12 hours later.

So what is your opinion on all of this? I wasn't doing anything other than simply walking my dogs in the designated doggy area and keeping my distance from him and his dog the whole time.





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Posted: 07/28/14 08:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My opinion, I wouldn't have argued with the moron at all, I'd have just contacted CG management, especially when he comes to my site.


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Remember you cannot fix stupid

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Posted: 07/28/14 09:00am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I probably would have left, mumbling to my self what a rude dude he was. As a pet owner, I usually avoid pet type conflict. If he's training, he should do it at home. You never know how extreme people can be, What you did was fine but to many bad what if's here. Safer to just move on. Don't let someone like that ruin your day. Unfortunately times have changed.


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Posted: 07/28/14 09:07am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

bukhrn wrote:

My opinion, I wouldn't have argued with the moron at all, I'd have just contacted CG management, especially when he comes to my site.


Calling would have been the next step and I was just about to do that. Sometimes you just have to state your case first.

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Posted: 07/28/14 09:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You were not wrong, he was, from your description.

Remember the senior citizen in a movie theater recently who shot and killed someone over texting or cell phone calls? (Nothing against my fellow seniors.) Then there's road rage.

Such non-existent conflicts can materialize and escalate everywhere you go. Everybody loses when there are people with entitlement or anger management problems ready to blow. He was primed to take it up a notch so it's lucky your relatives appeared and caused him to back off.

Not saying I would have been able to do so, but sometimes the wise course of action is to say nothing to a ridiculous request and walk off. Then ( if he hadn't been departing) go have a chat with management the next morning. Then forget it immediately and enjoy your vacation.


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Posted: 07/28/14 09:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

i'm sure from the picture you paint of your actions, you are totally innocent

sounds like the big bad man just blew up on you for no reason...................

would be quite interested to hear the other side of the story


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Posted: 07/28/14 09:29am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

For what it's worth, he wasn't yelling with a red face on. He was talking loudly when we were far apart and was still talking loudly, just not AS loud when he got closer.

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Posted: 07/28/14 09:30am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

He was in the wrong.

it was the initial annoyed TONE of voice and not so sweet wording that got the fur up on the back of YOUR neck

what I would have done is just left. YUP. obviously he was ticked about something, probably NOT even you. the pup probably pooped inside the camper, the wife got on his butt about the doggie she never wanted and ---take it from there

you were obviously in the right but honestly who knows what set this guy off??

so at that point I would have walked anywhere to avoid the stupid and nasty of this man. (of course being a gal I wouldn't confront him at night by myself), you being a guy did it without hesitation and it rolled on from there.

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Posted: 07/28/14 09:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If it was as you stated the only real way to deal with people like that is to just ignore them. Easier said then done.

But based on their demeanor probably not much more you could have done other then calling the park or host to resolve it.

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