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Arnold's father may have had NAZI ties but Bustamante was a member of the Mexican version of the KKK. Do we want this guy for governor.
Bustamante was an active member of "MEChA" a radical Mexican/American Organization which seeks to take back Mexican land lost in the war (Mexican-American war) or sold by Mexico to the U.S. They seek to take back the entire southwestern United States from Texas to California and from the Mexican border to the Canadian border. Mechistas aim to reclaim all this land for Mexico in a new reconquista, a “reconquest” like the re-taking of Spain from Moorish Muslims by Roman Catholics that was completed in 1492.
The “A” in MEChA stands for “Aztlan,” their word for the entire southwestern United States from Texas to California.
Its motto: "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada (For the Race, everything. For those outside the Race, nothing)."
Bustamante to this day will NOT acknowledge his disassociation with the organization. Bustamante may be an honest and decent person but this is one skeleton in the closet I dont think I can overlook.
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Please the 9 split because the rest of the members "has abandoned" El Plan de Aztlan, El Plan de Santa Barbara and The Philosophy of MEChA, the organization's founding documents and constitutions.
The MECHA has splintered into two different groups. I would recommend that people shouldn’t get CAUGHT UP in assigning people into a particular group. It could be a political disaster.. NATIONWIDE
From the article:
“The nine members said in the letter that the campus MEChA "has abandoned" El Plan de Aztlan, El Plan de Santa Barbara and The Philosophy of MEChA, the organization's founding documents and constitutions.”
Buddy says:
The philosophy the rest of the group abandoned, is the philosophy that you so strongly object to.. It is the nine that you hold in disdain.
KIDD says
But there is a link to La Vozde Aztlan from the Fresno State University web site. The university must approve of it.
Buddy says:
It’s a Latino news paper.. ‘The voice of Aztlan’. Are you insinuating that the California university system endorses news papers.. I think not..
Matter of fact the Fresno Website neither endorses nor guaranties any product advertised on it’s web site.
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YOUR LINK DOES NOT WORK. WHY LABEL IT FRESNO STATE.
THERE IS NO FRESNO STATE MECHA WEBSITE.......
Differences Cause Split in MEChA
By Daniel Hernandez
Contributing Writer
After months of intense internal strife, nine members of UC Berkeley's 29-year-old chapter of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan have seceded and formed a new group in an effort to "reclaim" the organization.
The unexpected split was dramatically announced during MEChA's Nov. 10 meeting when the nine members read a letter describing their reasons for leaving the club, then stood up and walked out of the meeting room.
According to UC Berkeley's Office of Student Activities and Services, the break-off group registered a new campus organization on Nov. 12 under the name Berkeley MEChA, a slight variation on the name of the established chapter, MEChA de UC Berkeley.
Members of the new group voted to refrain from making any public statements regarding their reasons for initiating the split.
But in a copy of the group's letter obtained by The Daily Californian, members of the splinter group said the organization "is no longer under the direction and control of the Chicano students at UC Berkeley but instead is being manipulated by individuals and outside organizations at the expense of MEChA."
The nine members said in the letter that the campus MEChA "has abandoned" El Plan de Aztlan, El Plan de Santa Barbara and The Philosophy of MEChA, the organization's founding documents and constitutions.
"Thus," the letter said, "through all our efforts, we find no other alternative but to once again reclaim MEChA."
Weeks after the Nov. 10 meeting, members said they were still shocked by the announcement of the split.
"We had tension in the past, but we were not expecting a split," said Roberto Hernandez, MEChA campus co-chair. "It's completely out of control and definitely counterproductive. How the hell is MEChA supposed to function?"
He added that at the root of the division is the disagreement over MEChA's involvement with OLIN, a Bay Area high school organization that has led two student walkouts for increased school funding and high school ethnic studies.
"In the letter, they claim that those (MEChA members) who work with OLIN are infiltrators, trying to bring in OLIN's agenda," Hernandez said. But OLIN and MEChA share common roots, Hernandez added, because they are both founded on "education and taking direct action in political activism."
He said the division was discussed at the central meeting, which consists of representatives from all MEChA chapters in the Bay Area, four days after the announcement.
At the Nov. 14 San Jose convention, representatives of the splinter group, Berkeley MEChA, succeeded in convincing other delegates in attendance to vote against recognizing MEChA de UC Berkeley as a legitimate chapter of the organization.
When the representatives of MEChA de UC Berkeley arrived they were not allowed to enter the meeting hall and were even threatened with police action.
"They voted on it without having anyone to speak on behalf of MEChA de UC Berkeley," Hernandez said.
According to Gabe Reynoso, an intern at the Office of Student Activities and Services, MEChA's recent split is not the first of its kind on campus.
"Groups are always being formed that have overlapping interests," Reynoso said. Any four students can start a new branch-off club of an organization and "just change the name a little bit," he said.
Some students said, however, that they feel MEChA's split is unique in that the club has had such a long history of action on campus, making its division a tragic incident.
Others expressed concern for the future of UC Berkeley's Chicano community as a whole and for club recruitment and retention.
"Before starting to worry about which MEChA is going to recruit them when they get here, we need to worry about getting enough Chicanos in here in the first place," Hernandez said.
Attempts at dialogue between the two groups have not been successful because "Berkeley MEChA has not wanted to talk about the issue," he said.
Apolonio Morales, the contact signatory listed with the university for Berkeley MEChA, declined to comment on the platform and plans of the new club, but did say Berkeley MEChA currently has no funding.
The new group is not yet an official student organization because it has no ASUC Senate sponsorship and has not secured ASUC funding, according to Janice Crowder, the association's director of student affairs.
"To have to even deal with this, to take away from our campus and community work, is pointless," Hernandez added.
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Bustamante pressured to repudiate MEChA
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Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California - August 26, 2003 - (ACN) Lt. Governor Cruz Bustamante, a front running candidate to replace Governor Gray Davis in the California recall, is being increasingly pressured to repudiate the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA), a student organization in which he held membership while attending Fresno State University as a youth. The pressure upon Bustamante has increased greatly ever since information became widely known that Republican Party candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger's father was a Nazi "brownshirt" in Austria and that Arnold has social connections with former president of Austria, Kurt Wilhelm, another Nazi implicated in war time atrocities. It appears that Republicans favoring Schwarzenegger want to even the score.
There is, of course, no comparison between the Nazi Party in Germany and a student group that struggles to increase educational opportunities for Chicanos and Mexican-Americans at colleges and universities that have traditionally shut the doors to Latinos. Cruz Bustamante owes his political success largely to the training he received as a Mechista and is unlikely to turn his back on his comrades that gave him his start at Fresno State University. Without MEChA at Fresno State University, Bustamante may have never set foot on campus. One of MEChA's primary missions is to recruit promising students from high schools in the community and to provide social, cultural and academic support to assure that recruited students graduate. Bustamante was, however, a difficult student. He did not graduate from Fresno State University until May of this year.
MEChA has been very successful and now has many alumni in elected posts at the highest levels of government throughout Aztlan (Southwest USA). There are now numerous former Mechistas who are elected government representatives at the federal, state, county and local levels. It is very unlikely that Cruz Bustamante will repudiate MEChA to appease his detractors. We do not believe that Bustamante has "malinchista" tendencies.
MEChA's primary goal is to instill ethnic and cultural pride in its members. It accomplishes this by providing a true version of our history. In many cases, Chicanos and Mexican-Americans are segregated in public schools and are being under-educated by uncaring Anglo teachers who do not live in our community. This kind of school environment usually creates apathy in our students and low self-esteem resulting in low academic achievement. This is where MEChA steps in and fills the void.
MEChA emphasizes the fact that our current disadvantaged, economic and political, situation is primarily due to us losing the Mexican-American War that ended in 1848 with the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo and the subsequent confiscation of our vast land by the English speaking invaders. This knowledge awakens our student's minds to the true reality of our situation which than provides the necessary impetus to struggle harder and become better people. Our students than realize the great value of what was taken from us . . . not only our land but our language and our culture as well.
No, we do not think that Bustamante will repudiate MEChA. Without MEChA, Cruz Bustamante would not be where he is.
KIDD
La Voz de Aztlan is a news paper. Translated it means, The Voice of Aztlan....
IT IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE FRESNO STATE UNIVERSITY....
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You have posted statements from all over America. Not one from a MECHA in Fresno, California. I have posted two from Fresno that you choose to ignore.
Busty joined the Fresno MECHA in the 70's. Read the following and tell me that you would expect anyone to denounce the goals of this group.
External MEChA
Coordinator: Fabian Renteria ASAP at: frenteri@ucla.edu
Please it since it will help in the continued planning of the 2002
Statewide Conference and workshop proposals. In addition,
pass the word on about the scholarship. I know that no high
school in the westside has regional voting rights, except for
CAMS but they are in the Southbay, but this could change since
high schools that have central voting rights only need to attend
two regionals in a row to get regional voting rights (Soo Grant,
SAMO, and Venice be on the lookout for this).
Next regionals are going to be in March in UCSD and then the
next one at Santa Ana Community College in April.
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Conference Planning:
Statewide Conference Information
Proposed theme:
Hunabku: energy for the movement, creating retention and
accessability to Higher Education
Conference Goals:
External goal: using the Progressive Political Agenda to return
MEChA 's focus to education.
Objective: Create a scholarship for high school students to be
given out at each statewide conference
Internal Goal: Getting MEChA back into high schools
High School Outreach:
Special workshops that should be offered, but no facilitator yet, to
address High school students specifically are one on gangs (no
specifics yet), one on alcohol and how it affects our community,
and one on drugs and how it affects our community.
There will be a college and community fair and each school
should send one MEChistA to table during lunchtime for your
school.
And one workshop will be for those high school students who
who are applying for the scholarship.
Students who are applying for the scholarship (2-$250.00) must
be a MEChistA who is in a chapter that has both central voting
rights and regional voting rights by the third liaison which most
likely will be in April. there is still a lot of time to get voting rights
for those high schools that want to apply. In addition the
mechista must be graduating and planning to continue with their
education. more info will come shortly. For thos who want
specifics on the scholarship please email Joyce at
ollin_atl@msn.com.
Workshop Proposal Forms: For all of you who want to give a workshop at the
Spring 2002 California MEChA Statewide Conference here is the
workshop proposal form. Please fill it out and give it to me soon.
Although the proposals were due at this liaision on Saturday,
there is an extension on them until March 5. Please put them in
Fabian Renteria's box at the MEChA office.
Spring 2002 California MEChA Statewide Conference
Workshop Proposal
Name of workshop:
Name of Campus where workshop is recognized/sponsorship
from:
Region: Northern__ Central__ Southern__
Contact Person:
Phone Number:
Fax Number:
Email:
What are the names of the speakers/presenters of the
workshop?
1) =
3)
2) =
4)
Description of workshop and how it is related to the conference
theme?
Which category does your workshop best fit into? (circle one)
1) Founding Documents
2) Cultural/Social-Economic/Political/Educational relating to the
theme
3) Resolution, Constitutional Amendments, and Action
Workshop
--How many sessions?
List any materials that the speaker(s) for the presentation of the
workshop:
Any additional comments regarding your workshop that might be
beneficial for us to know?
Thank you for proposing a workshop for the conference. Please
make a cop y of this form before submitting it. Remember that
workshops can only be passed through the liaison process. We
will be in contact on the updates of your workshop and hope the
conference will be a success.
Send a copy of this complete form to:
Chabot College
Attn: MEChA
25555 Hesperian Blvd.,
Hayward, Ca 94545
*Los Angeles County MEChA Central: This Friday Decemeber 7, 2001, there is a MEChA Central mtg. (where MEChA's from HS's, community colleges, universities, etc. meet). The Central will take place at Occidental College.
We are still supporting the IWC workers. What has happened to over 100 workers is wrong, after more than twenty years of work the company as turned their back on the workers, and their own union is showing very little support. So please do what you can to help.
Please see which one you and your chapter can attend.
*Every friday afternoon we get together with the workers and walk the line. This is also a great time to bring any canned or dry foods you have collected. Take the 710 Fwy exit on Firestone, go east and we will be on the left side, not even a minute from the fwy exit.
*We are collecting food, anything non-perishable. Cereals, flour, beans, rice, canned food. We are also collecting femenine products, toilet paper, shampoo, toothpaste, anything that you think is needed please bring it to the address stated above.
*We are going to the different Lowe's locations and passing out information. Letting the customers know what's going on. Lowe's is the largest buyer of IWC windows. We want them to stop buying from the company so in order to do that the customers need to know what's going on.
***This saturday there will be a press conference at the picket line. Most of the workers will be there, as well as politicians who are supporting the workers. It will be at 9:30am on Saturday. If you can attend please let me know, we need to show as much support as possible.
Please let me know what you can do. Thank you for all of your support. It is because of the students that the workers have not lost hope. They let us know every time we go. We have helped keep spirits high. Let's continue and show them that they are not alone in this fight. In solidarity, Gladys Ordoñez 323-573-7086 Santa Monica College M.E.Ch.A.
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Zephyr
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So is it safe to assume this guy will not be Governor of California.
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For all those interested in learning more about Cruz Bustamante, check out this section on the guy himself: Cruz Bustamante. Let me know what you think.
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If this guy is the next California Governor, watch out!
Science & Society 9/15/03
By John Leo
Ignoring radical racialism
The mainstream press has been doing a miserable job covering Cruz Bustamante's ties to the creepy Chicano secessionist group MEChA. This may not be the biggest story of the California recall election, but voters surely have a right to expect some actual information about the leading Democratic candidate's views of a group that is certainly racialist, if not racist.
A MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan) slogan translates as "For the race everything. For those outside the race, nothing." El Plan de Aztlan, a founding document carried now on many MEChA Internet sites, talks about the "call of our blood" and the need to reclaim the Southwest (Aztlan) from "the occupying forces of the oppressor." As if the Nazi-like call to the power of blood isn't scary enough, Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge's MEChA raised the issue of ethnic cleansing. Once Aztlan has been taken over, he said, non-Chicanos "would have to be expelled" and opposition groups quashed "because you have to keep the power."
Bustamante is no wild-eyed radical. But he has had as much trouble renouncing his connection to MEChA as Trent Lott did in retracting his admiring comment on the Dixiecrats. Bustamante joined MEChA in his college years in the 1970s and has reportedly addressed MEChA groups since. Under heavy prodding at Fox News, he said he would be governor of all the people, but he has offered no direct disavowal of the group.
Now, it's safe to say that if a leading Republican candidate for governor had any ties at all to a MEChA-like group of white supremacists, past or present, 20 or so reporters would charge out of every California newsroom, eager to commit journalism.
Nothing like that has happened. My computer searches haven't yet turned up a serious press examination of the issue. What you get instead is an information-free paragraph or two stuck on the end of a report on farm policy or some other campaign issue. The Los Angeles Times, ever willing to protect readers from the news, tiptoed around the story for two weeks, then ran an article deep inside the paper on a Saturday, when almost nobody reads the paper.
The Times report took the opportunity to clear Bustamante without looking much into the charges. The lead of the article was this: "A Chicano student organization that Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante belonged to at Fresno State University in the mid-1970s has its roots in a nationalistic protest movement but is better known on college campuses for working to recruit and retain Latino students." Citing the slogan "For the race everything. For those outside the race, nothing," the L.A. Times said that it is "not the group's motto, as reported by some organizations, but was used by Chicano activists before MEChA was founded." Well, yes, it isn't the motto, but it is a group slogan that appears on many MEChA sites today, not just before MEChA's founding in 1969. Couldn't those 10 or 15 Saturday readers be let in on this?
Heavy lifting. In the absence of informative print and network journalism, the heavy lifting has been done by bloggers on the Internet. Glenn Reynolds (InstaPundit.com), Mickey Kaus (Kausfiles.com), and two sites new to me (Tacitus.org and Pejmanesque.com) have been reporting on MEChA and analyzing what can be currently found on MEChA sites. (For a defense of Bustamante, go to Ted Barlow's site at crookedtimber.org.)
Tacitus argues that Bustamante's MEChA membership is a socially tainting act that can't be whisked away as a harmless youthful affiliation. He writes: "Former Klansmen and former Nazis don't get a pass unless they spend a great deal of time and energy apologizing for and explaining themselves in a convincing manner."
I agree. Defenders of MEChA portray it as a benign social group now distant from its radical roots. But that portrait is hard to square with the information put out on MEChA sites today. Those sites tell Chicanos not to work outside the bronze race and to condemn "multinational" alliances. And there are hints of violence. El Plan calls for "self-defense against the occupying forces of the oppressors" and mentions "the utilization of our bodies for war."
If this is leftover '60s bluster, why don't MEChA and Bustamante simply disavow it? The group may be harmless on some campuses, but it clearly positions itself as a virulent identity group with no interest in pluralism or tolerance. Why are the press and the Democrats giving a candidate with this kind of background a pass?
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The real lowdown on Bustamante and MEChA
Excerpts from MEChA ties meaningless for Bustamante follow. (I would prefer to quote far less, but I I have been told on other threads that most won’t read the link.) Emphasis added.
DALLAS -- Nativist conservatives are so jittery over the phenomenal growth of the Latino population in the United States that they'll believe anything.
Now they've swallowed the whopper recently slung at California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante. The first Latino elected statewide in the Golden State in over 100 years, Bustamante is an ensconced member of the Democratic establishment, the front-runner to replace Gov. Gray Davis in the recall election and a former militant, or so they say.
Here's how the whopper goes: Back in the mid-1970s, while attending Cal State University Fresno, Bustamante was a member of MEChA, a radical Mexican-American student organization whose mission is to forcibly take over the American Southwest and hand it back to Mexico. Of course, it's not really the Southwest but "Aztlan," the mythical homeland of Mexican-Americans unjustly occupied by foreign invaders since 1848 when the land was stolen through Manifest Destiny.
In response to all this, I'm sure I speak for the majority of the 20 million or so Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the United States when I say: "Yawn."
Reality check, people. The native-cons' obsession with Aztlan is goofy. A mythical homeland for Mexican-Americans in the Southwest? Why Aztlan? Why not a name that really fits? Like Absurdia.
If you've never heard of MEChA -- more formally known as the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan -- you're not missing much. It's a rickety organization that is totally ineffective and irrelevant in the modern day. What am I saying? It was pretty much ineffective and irrelevant back in its own day. Since it was founded in 1969, the real story has been not how many Mexican-American students join up, but how many don't.
Today at colleges around the country you're likely to find better attendance at a meeting of the Hispanic Business Students Association. Those who do join MEChA are likely to find a majority of the organization's time and energy dedicated to planning festivals, forums and folklorico dancing.
Now, I ask you, is that any way to lead a revolution?
Just don't try telling any of this to the gaggle of right-wing pundits who have convinced themselves that MEChA is all about racial separatism and the Chicano equivalent of the Ku Klux Klan or the Nazis. It all started when syndicated columnist Michelle Malkin incorrectly identified the group's motto as: Por La Raza todo. Fuera de la Raza nada. (For the Mexican people everything, for others nothing.) Actually, the phrase comes from "El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan," a poem espousing Chicano nationalism that emerged at a Chicano youth conference in Denver in March 1969. MEChA wasn't founded until the following month at another conference in Santa Barbara. Its real motto is, La Union Hace La Fuerza (Unity Creates Strength).
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Colo, you need to get your head out of the sand. The capacity liberals have for denial never ceases to amaze me. Leo is quoting directly from the group's documents. It doesn't matter if this particular group is ineffectual, it matters a lot that a Gubernatorial candidate has supported the platform of a group like this.
This is just another liberal media whitewash job. It's OK for a Democrat to hang out with people like this but, hey, if one of Arnold's relatives was a Nazi, that is fodder for a constant media assault. Doesn't matter that Arnold is a social liberal, he's a Republican.
Take a ride to LA and experience the invasion going on there first hand. Then come back and tell us it doesn't matter if the Governor of the largest state in America thinks these kinds of ideas are OK. I don't see Bustamente repudiating them, do you?
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yadda, yadda, yadda: http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~mecha/plan.html
http://aztlan.net/
http://aztlan.net/homeland.htm
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